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[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

OH, now we're too high and mighty to have a deaf kid closet? Fame changes people.

[–] runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago

Fucking woke bullshit. (/s because someone is gonna think I'm serious)

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (7 children)

AI will take over the world /s

[–] gabbath@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It has, it's just stupid.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How has speech to text gotten so bad. Dictation and keyboard taps are just going to hell with AI.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The AI bros refuse to even allow proof reading and corrections.

I've never had voice commands work right for my speech. Something I had to demonstrate every time my friends ask why I won't use the speech commands on their TV.

Speech interpretation just doesn't work for everyone and I personally refuse to alter how I speak for a computer.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 1 day ago

Same here, if this PoS computer can't handle me at my best 12 beers in, it does not deserve me at my worst, sober!

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Aaron? Iron urn?

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 96 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I believe him, I also believe that Nintendo has secret rooms of deaf kids somewhere. No clue what they'd use them for. But if the news broke that someone found a dungeon owned by Nintendo full of deaf kids i wouldn't be surprised.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Man, I miss Nintendo's Iwata/Reggie age. Those guys had vision beyond just endless profits.

[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

Well the shareholders can't have that. It gets in the way of their endless profits.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mostly recreational purposes I assume

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

If Nintendo was based in the US I'd have included that possibility in my post above.

[–] lowleveldata@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Would be useful for accessibility test

[–] lime@feddit.nu 42 points 2 days ago (14 children)

it's crazy to me that for all the ai "advances" in the past few years nobody has thought to improve subtitling.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 14 points 2 days ago

Poor deaf kids. Not because they're being held captive but because they're relying on shitty automatic captions.
For example, Czech was only added very recently and the captions really suck, they change the meaning of most sentences and even include spelling errors.

Everyone making scripted videos should at least:

  1. go through their script to convert it into a transcript (match what's actually been said – looking at you CGP Grey – and remove visual cues)
  2. upload it for YouTube's auto-timing (which is not perfect but we'll take it)

Too bad the FCC's captioning act is toothless, even TV stations (like HBO) uploading their content to YouTube don't bother importing captions even though they're legally required to.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It's even worse for captions.

Captions and subtitles aren't even the same thing.

In fact, most DVD players don't even pass the code captioning through HDMI ports, so old captioned DVDs don't work anymore.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

i too watched that technology connections video

[–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

~~explain.~~ edited with explanation. i've seen the technology connections video, thanks.

my comment is still about the actual post above, and i was specifically thinking about auto-generated subs rather than, say, movies. apparently that's not obvious.

[–] Ansis100@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My student friend tells me that the auto-generated captions for non-English MS Teams lecture recordings recently have improved significantly and have even become usable.

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[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Andrew Ng did a video when he gradually added noise to the training audio to improve the quality.

But here we are dealing with homophones so it's not just turning speech to text, it also needs to be context aware.

Possible but too expensive to implement automatically.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

context awareness is the entire point of language models tho :(

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm highlighting that speech to text and context awareness are different skills.

YouTube is unlikely to waste loads of compute power on subtitles that don't need it just to capture the occasional edge case.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

i mean, it's a one-time-per-video thing. they already do tons of processing on every upload.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So if you can reduce compute there then you save money.

There is no technical difficulty. It's a business decision.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

right now they're dynamically generating subtitles every time. that's way more compute.

[–] aow@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For real? That's incredibly dumb/expensive compared to one subtitle roll. Can you share where you saw that?

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

well, i have no evidence of this. however. looking at the way auto-generated subtitles are served at youtube right now, they are sent individually word-by-word from the server, pick up filler words like "uh", and sometimes pause for several seconds in the middle of sentences. and they're not sent by websocket, which means they go through multiple requests over the course of a video. more requests means the server works harder because it can't just stream the text like it does the video, and the only reason they'd do that other than incompetence (which would surely have been corrected by now, it's been like this for years) is if the web backend has to wait for the next word to be generated.

i would love to actually know what's going on if anyone has any insight.

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

it would be an improvement. thats not what we are doing anymore

new tech is there to make everyone more miserable

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I’m sure they have… they just aren’t currently incentivized to do so

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[–] egonallanon@lemm.ee 66 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Under delivering yet again Sean. I want my deaf children!

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 days ago

They are great for stress relief. You can yell at them all fuckin day.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Acknowledged! Dead children will now spawn in your game as requested. ...you weirdo.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 2 days ago

LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR!

LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR!

LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR!

[–] crypto@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago
[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 31 points 3 days ago

Sounds like what someone would say if they were hiding deaf kids.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 26 points 3 days ago

greedy nintendo hoarding all the deaf kids to themselves

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago

nokidsseesky

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