The fate of most shows nowadays. Greedy companies don’t give a shit about telling a good story or giving it a proper ending.
All they care about is number go up.
Stop giving them your money and attention.
this post was submitted on 23 May 2025
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I'd like to see creators who own their rights put in contracts that the story must be told in full, and that whatever pacing is decided on (1 season per book for example) needs to be maintained. I know most studios would walk away, but I'd love for someone to have the balls to tell them that
You want to make my 10 book series into a TV show? Put your money where your mouth is and pony up 10 seasons worth
I just want to see creatives actually owning their creations in the future and not being slowly choked out by corporations and their greed.
“It you don’t sign over everything, we’ll just use Ai to rip you off and get away with it.”
Honestly I don’t see actors in the future owning their own likeness. “Want to be an actor? Well we’ll own your face and voice forever”
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I’m surprised it lasted 3 seasons to be honest. I hated it.
I couldn't make it past the first episode.
I made it through the first season, but just barely, and I didn't go back.
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Fuck's sake, it had just started to properly settle down and get good
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If you want the loyal fans to watch it, stop fucking it up! Keep the source material, and let your cooky ass writers write their own shit.
Perrin having and killing his wife?
A total cut of Gaul?
Aviendha and Elayne for... some reason?
Perrin straight up actually killing geofram bornehald? Which is a WHOLE plot point by the way.
Moraine killing the shit out of seanchan at falme definitely breaking the 3 oaths?
It goes on and on. So much questionable decision making.
It's like the Witcher. People aren't going to respect your OC by fucking up a recognizable name, they will just find you incompetent
If you want the loyal fans to watch it, stop fucking it up! Keep the source material, and let your cooky ass writers write their own shit.
cough cough Halo
cough cough WoT
cough cough LotR
cough cough Witcher
They just can't fucking help themselves. Like incontinent tomcats, they've just gotta spray their stink all over everything, because "we can do it better."
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So will Prime use this freed up budget to fund some decent programming, or will they just throw it at another big budget Bezos money pit project like the Lord of The Rings tv show and that awful Citadel tv universe?
My prediction: This is being sacrificed to pay for a Bond 007 tentpole show that won’t be any good.
Meanwhile Amazon owns the rights to Stargate and does nothing with it.
I have a sneaking suspicion amazon picked up wheel of time only because they wanted to fill a high fantasy slot in the portfolio. Now they have rings of power with built in IP recognition, typical executive brain will put focus there instead.
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Glad they finally put a nail on that one. You got to stop funding projects made by people who don't even like the source material.
Bond and Dexter improved by straying from the source material (up to a point). Bourne trilogy is better for ignoring the disguise element.
But in general you are correct.
I think to know where to deviate from source requires a thorough understanding of and appreciation for it first.
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Great job!!
Now do it for Rings of Power.
I hated it from the first episode.
They had amazing material to work with, all they had to do was adapt it to TV.
A group of amateurs made an awesome Wheel Of Time episode with a budget of about $5 and an afternoon of shooting. Amazon should have just given them the money to do it.
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Fuck.
As someone who never read the books, I found the TV show cluttered. Part of that was watching it non-binge style I’m sure.
Should I give this another try? Even though there won’t be an “ending..”
The show has a completely different tone and pacing from the books. The books are much closer to LotR (particularly the first one which is basically just alt. Fellowship) and spend a lot of time with the characters traveling and getting to know each other and the lore of the world. There's plenty of bickering, but the characters all like each other and get along decently. The show opted to cut most of the parts where you learn what's going on to instead focus on manufactured drama.
They also just changed things in really confusing ways like making Mat's parents deadbeats, among other things. Some of the plot restructuring makes sense given how much stuff there is to adapt. I don't think anyone reasonable can expect any book adaptation to keep 100% faithful unless it's getting crazy funding as a TV series. That said they just really took a knife to things.
Idk, as someone who loves the books despite their issues I wasn't particularly enamoured with the show. Some people liked it though.
If the world seemed interesting I'd recommend the audiobooks. Love Michael Kramer and Kate Reading.
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I only watched the first season (big fan of the books as a kid). Imo, it is not worth your time. They took out what makes WoT special and produced some extremely generic, bland fantasy.
Not nearly enough tugging of braids :d
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I agree with most others in here, they ran roughshod over major character traits and plot points for no discernable reason. Wasted an episode of the first season on some random Warder.
That said, the biggest crime was the 8 or 9 out of 10 emotion and yelling in basically every scene. Wheel of Time can definitely drag on, so maybe they were trying to spice things up? Idk, it was weird.
At least this Rand fucks, though.
I mean, Rand was running a harem for half of the series
They took forever to build out the characters and the story. Good production for a series, but had the worst pacing. Sadly, their build up now leaves you hanging. I am not sure why Amazon is cancelling their series, without proper finales. I am guessing this has to do with overspending on Bond.
Similar to Netflix's approach, they most likely found that viewership drops sharply after the first 2 or 3 seasons, so more money to be made elsewhere.
But similar to Netflix, they'll find that people aren't willing to give things a chance and will associate all your original productions with crap, if you keep doing it.
Also true, but that's not what shareholders and executives care about. They just want the next quarterly profits to go up to get their payouts
This is why you wait to see if the series is going to get an ending before starting it.
Everybody waits to see if it gets an ending...nobody watches...cancelled after first series.
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Frankly, I am bummed by this news.
I read the books, but seeing how it was a decade+ ago since I last went through some of them, most of it is a blur and I can forgive some of the changes in favor of smoother storytelling.
While the show brought familiarity back, and season 1 was painfully bad in almost all ways, from adapting/changing characters to lore. The show was leaps better in S2 and with S3 each episode felt very cinematic and now told a more cohesive story.
So, even though it was adapted, I was looking out for each new episode and had high spirits for a good S4.
Alas, if it is not picked up by any other studio, the "unfilmable book series" will remain that way, no one will burn their hands on it again. So, those cheering its demise, take that in consideration.
In closing, Prime definitely did not do it full justice at the starting line and it was expensive to catch up to that fact ...
But the show was treated and produced better than Rings of Power, which does get another stay and money pumped into it, a choice I rather saw turned around.
Same. I am actually kind of pissed about how much neckbeardery there was around this online because the last season was legitimately getting good and I was excited to see it through, but all of the "um akshually the dagger was crimson" shit probably killed the show.
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Meh
They screwed it up completely within the first 5 minutes of the first episode so not a big deal for anyone who's actually read the books.
Even people who hadn't read the books, realized how rushed things were in some cases, and then dragged out filler in others.
It was obvious they had the same issue as several other recent adaptations: The showrunner wants to make original content, and think it's so good that people wont care that it differs from the source or even changes the story and characters.
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After 3 seasons they have to give people a pay bump so I'm mot surprised
Hopefully another company will step in.
I could never get past Loial not having expressive ears. Like 90% of Ogier emotion is described by the positioning or movement of their long ass ears
Or the fact people from Two Rivers are often identified by their physical look and way they speak, but the TV series starts out with every person from their tiny isolated village being ethnically diverse.
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Didn’t read the books but found it an ok watch which was obv not enough for a marquee show.
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