Why MIcrosoft can't develop a good desktop app when they have a huge amount of money and loads of staff. Not to mention owning the operating system a majority of people use, meaning the app, syncing, backing up, etc. can be super optimised for it without any fuss for using workarounds. NO MS, PUTTING ALL MY FILES INTO A "OneDrive" FOLDER IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. WHY IS THERE TWO OF THEM??? "OneDrive" and "OneDrive - [org name]"???? WHAT??? AND YOUR TASKBAR ICON THING FOR ONEDRIVE IS ANNOYING. WHY CAN'T I QUIT ONEDRIVE WITHOUT OPENING THE MENU?????????

Thankfully I switched to more competent cloud providers. pCloud is pretty good, they just sync your files. No stupid "moving all your folders into a pcloud folder and making two of them one of which is empty for some reason". Super duper simple. And pcloud definitely has many times less budget and staff than MS. Jottacloud is also great, pretty similar to pcloud in that it only syncs files. WHY ARE THESE MUCH SMALLER COMPANIES DOING A WAY BETTER JOB THAN MS???????

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 9 points 4 hours ago

This sounds like a problem I'm too Linux to understand

[–] czech@lemm.ee 69 points 6 hours ago (6 children)

I love my jobs implementation of onedrive. It copies files from my hardrive, erases the local copy, and then loses the remote version.

[–] Bezier@suppo.fi 41 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Microsoft ate my homework

[–] double_quack@lemm.ee 5 points 5 hours ago

I died with this hahahahha

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[–] double_quack@lemm.ee 17 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Linux, people... Linux!

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Eventually, they're gonna make changing the OS illegal and burn in windows into the hardware. Welcome to the world of tomorrow! 🙃

[–] guynamedzero@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

And that’s the point where I’ll go off the grid

[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Buy a ThinkPad, download Wikipedia, print as many books as you can, spend 6 months binding those books, die from dysentery or almost starve to death in winter.

This is also my retirement plan.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 hours ago

microsoft: hey lets set up onedrive and make it your new documents folder for everything on your computer

also microsoft: oh yeah you only get 15gb unless you pay more but we won't tell you that and once full you can't use your documents folder

[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I can totally relate. I went and built a NAS then installed Proxmox on it to then create a VM for TrueNAS in which i then created a docker for Nextclound. Then I installed Arch on a different VM and used Nextcloud sync so I can have access to my files on my laptop that also runs Arch. Humblebrag over, I apologize for trying to relate to a windows user.

[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 hours ago

Would actively fuck apps up because it would register as a file touch and break things that expected unchanged file content

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I'm gonna go buy a copy of Linux

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

I will sell you my copy. DM me, I'll give you a deal

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

buy

What is this word?

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

I miss boxed copies of Linux $50 and you got a thick book with it.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I, too, shoplift my install USB’s. /s

[–] fossphi@lemm.ee 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Raw dog PXE boot over the fucking internet

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Memorize the kernel, stick your dick in the PCIe slot, I N S T A L L

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 2 points 5 hours ago

(hard)drive it like you stole it

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago

TRY AGAIN IN THREE DAYS

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Windows 11 finally allows you to simply uninstall OneDrive. Before that you had to do weird registry hacks, that often broke something :-/

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

"Yay, they finally allows access to my machine that I bought and paid for... 🫠"

a few minutes later...

"Wait what now? They added WHAT? 😱 ("Copilot" AI 🤮)"

[–] IMongoose@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Bro, I had just reinstalled windows and I moved my backup folder straight to my desktop, then left. I get an alert like two hours later saying my onedrive is full. What? Go back and the copy failed. I can excuse it automatically backing stuff up because people don't understand anything, but to cancel my local transfer is insane. I was livid. OneDrive is cancer.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 18 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

A reminder that if your data is not backed up in a different physical location, then it is not safe.

[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org 50 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Reminder that you should choose where to back up to, not Microsoft.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Agreed, but most people don't backup at all. Then complain very loudly when they lose everything and blame everyone else other than themselves. Saw it daily fixing people's phones.

The technically inclined were the worst offenders, they always felt like they knew better than the defaults but they never actually set anything up.

OneDrive sucks but it is better than losing everything because your shit suddenly dies.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

All I ever see is most people using (whatever system cloud provider comes with their computer/phone/tablet) and forking over $3, 5, $10, $20 a month to make the "your cloud is full!" alert to go away.

Somewhere in the middle is the way, and in countries like the US, that something in the middle should probably not be a US cloud provider anymore.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

To be honest, from experience with the general public selling and supporting phones since the beginning of the smartphone revolution, anything other than the built in option is more complicated than most people can handle. They just get overwhelmed and then do nothing.

Most people are completely willing to ignore that message and will then complain that they lost everything just because they didn't pay the $1-2 a month upgrade that would have covered their storage needs with that built-in dummy-proof option that requires zero setup.

[–] suicidaleggroll@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed, but most people don’t backup at all. Then complain very loudly when they lose everything and blame everyone else other than themselves. Saw it daily fixing people’s phones.

I'd love to back up my phone locally, if there was an option, but AFAIK there isn't, so I'm stuck. This is a problem with companies forcing you into their cloud ecosystem and removing your ability to bypass it and control things yourself. It's only getting worse.

[–] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'd love to back up my phone locally, if there was an option, but AFAIK there isn't, so I'm stuck.

Can you not use Syncthing?

[–] suicidaleggroll@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Syncthing could be used to replicate a directory somewhere, but that doesn't address backing up the phone itself (apps, settings, SMS messages, etc.). Only option I'm aware of is iCloud. You can connect the phone directly to iTunes on a computer and back it up that way, but that only works with a hardwired USB connection and can't be automated, so it's a non-starter for a regular backup system. Android probably has more options, I'm referring to iOS specifically here though.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago

Depends on the data, some data would be fine being deleted but not fine being leaked, some the other way around.

[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 6 hours ago

And also if you don't try to restore your backups from time to time, you may actually not have any backups.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, my factory windows install died and refused to boot up, because I spent too long without creating an account or some ransom shit like that...I was sad for a second...then I booted back to Debian as I do every day :))

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I've never had an account.. not sure what weirdness you experienced but I've never once been pestered or asked for a login. Infact, the only thing I get is the 'lets finish setting up windows' full screen trash, which is just a window and I can alt-f4 to close. It's been years like that.

[–] Twitches@lemm.ee 5 points 6 hours ago

But housing it behind a key combination is malicious for the average user.

[–] PillowTalk420@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

This is one thing I still can't seem to rid myself of with Windows 10. Is there something in the Windows 10 Pro group policy thing I can do to send OneDrive back to hell from whence it came? I've only managed to get my files to save to a directory not controlled by it, however the quick links to media folders still point to the one drive folder even after manually changing them numerous times.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 3 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I'm confused. Are you logged in to OneDrive?

I mean, don't get me wrong, I loathe OneDrive. It's the flakiest, most unreliable piece of software in MS's current end-user-focused stable...

...but it still needs you to log in. If you log out from OneDrive it does nothing. It's a separate login from the Windows login, too, if you've used one of those to install Windows.

I genuinely haven't used Win10 in enough time I don't recall if it gave you more notifications to re-enable it, but after refusing to log in and taking OneDrive out of my startup tasks I don't think it's come up again on any of my Windows devices.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago

Can confirm. I have never had W10P bug me about OneDrive. I don't have, nor will I ever have an account for microshit. Local user only. All files stored locally and have never been promoted to do otherwise.

[–] PillowTalk420@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I don't even have a login for it, let alone try to use it. What it has done, however, has made itself the standard "My Documents" folder in the user profile. I am not using it for anything, I have that all on a totally separate drive and mostly everything correctly points to the new destination I have for My Documents, My Games, My Videos, etc.

However, I can not get the Quick Links on the left side of an explorer window to stick to the new destination. It keeps reverting back to the OneDrive folder within the user folder so using them just sends me to an empty folder.

[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 6 hours ago

The login is now unskippable and part of the OS setup.

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[–] andybytes@programming.dev 3 points 7 hours ago

Undesirables = tech ceos

[–] net00@lemm.ee -3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Right click tray icon > Settings > Manage backup > Turn off backup for all the folders...

That's it, all your folders become local only. Then if you don't want it running just disable auto-startup in task manager.

I guess it's more popular to hate than to learn things...

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

The fact that it’s opt-out and opt-in says a lot about windows.

I guess it's more popular to hate than to learn things...

Sure is, look at all that hate for this little guy 🐧 gets for example

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