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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 85 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

What does it excrete? I’m curious.

Edit: The bacterium will eventually convert the plastic into carbon dioxide and water. That’s both expected and somewhat disappointing.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/03/10/469972237/this-plastic-eating-bacterium-might-help-deal-with-waste-one-day

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 43 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Metabolism is just fire but slower IIRC

[–] The2b@lemmy.vg 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Metabolism can definitely create useful products. Alcohol is formed from yeast metabolising sugars, for example. Same with miso paste. Hell, we can make milk without cows now via precise fermantation.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Now that is interesting. From what and how?

[–] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Water and evaporated milk

[–] BreakerSwitch@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

Not sure on what the inputs are, but basically bioreactors that have bacteria that are doing the same processes you'd get milk from otherwise. I've done ice cream and protein powder made from companies that used perfect day foods' reactor milk. Actually was a big fan of the vegan whey protein powder, but that company died at some point

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

True, but it also depends on the enzymes capabilities to break things down into their smallest components.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If I ever become a rapper I'll be known as slow fire

[–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago

That would be a great name for a jazz band, I think

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

He's not a rapper.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You'd prefer they excreted gasoline and matches?

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

At least then we could have some fun with it before it ended up as CO2

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

It would be a sure way to have this technology properly funded and true recycling being done: all sharks would jump at having the opportunity to make fuel at the price of pennies.

But do we need more cars running on it as it is?

[–] teije9@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

what the plastic is made of. so any molecule that contains C, H (and atoms like O and S F or N depending on the type of plastic) can be synthesized by plastic eating bacteria. so we can also make oil and fuel from it

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The article states it’s ingesting Polyethylene Terephthalate (PET), (C10H8O4)n

[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Aren't all humans full of microplastics?

[–] Poach@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

All humans are also full of bacteria

[–] xkbx@startrek.website 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait. It's just bacteria and microplastics all the way down?

[–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

yin and yang.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Are the bacteria that humans are full of also full of microplastics? Does that microplastic have its own bacteria?

[–] brb@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago

Don't forget PFAS

[–] Maximumbird@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago

Not just humans, IIRC micro plastics can be found in the most remote parts of the planet such as uninhabited areas of Antarctica.

[–] vodka@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

Everything is, it has saturated the water cycle and is everywhere the water cycle reaches. (water cycle reaches everywhere)

[–] oppy1984@lemm.ee 25 points 3 weeks ago

Bunch of people in Hollywood getting really nervous right now.

[–] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is so great and so bad at the same time. We're gonna have to go back to using tar and shit for things we actually want to last. That's not going to be cheap...

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 34 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean, wood already biodegrades quite readily, yet we are able to make some pretty long lasting things out of it anyway. Having a bacteria that can break down some variety of plastic doesn't really imply that all plastic things are going to rot away like old fruit.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We also cover wood in hydrocarbons to stop it from being broken down, if a bacteria can break down long hydrocarbon chains we are kind of fucked

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Dry wood will last centuries without any oiling. Which is good news for timber frames because those are left untreated. As long as your house is water-tight, the frame will be fine because wood rot simlly can't metabolize in typical indoors humidity evels.

What we typically protect wood from is water, mechanical wear, UV, and stains. But even a furniture piece will not always get treated on internal parts where wear and wood expansion are no concerns.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And how do you keep the wood from being exposed to moisture without petroleum derivatives? Like technically it is possible but to build enough homes to that standard for even 1/1000 of the population is unreasonable

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago

What?

The house I'm sitting in right now is made out of bricks, with the roof being a untreated wood frame covered in ceramic shingles. No hydrocarbons involved (except for the insulation but that came a good sixty years after initial construction). There are other construction methods besides the American "just wrap it all in vinyl" approach that aren't necessarily more expensive, such as covering the outside insulation layer with clay/mortar.

The problem isn't air moisture, at 60 % air RH wood is like 10 % humid and won't rot. What causes wood to rot is pooling water, something that's easily avoided by decent house building.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Is this a false equivalence?

Is the rate at which wood rots indicative of how quickly plastic would rot?

Also plastic tends to be very thin. Like if bacteria can denature 0.1mm per year that's lots of years for a timber beam but a few months for plastic packaging.

[–] Prime_Minister_Keyes@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago

Tar is very problematic health-wise. Banned in some countries for this reason.

[–] rickywithanm@aussie.zone 15 points 3 weeks ago

A moment of silence for people with plastic surgery

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Reposting my old comment

Here's a thing I often think about.Somewhen long, long time ago trees existed, but there were no microorganisms or fungi which could break apart wood, so for some 60 millions of years land was littered with unrotten trees.Until these microorganisms and fungi came into existence and started to feast. That event made wood a perishable material, and people now have to treat wood in different ways in order to show down its decay.Currently, humanity relies on plastics. And one large advantage of plastics is that they are, well, effectively non perishable. At the same time, humanity actively creates microorganisms that would be able to do what nature learned to do to wood.If Michael Crichton taught us anything, it's the impossibility of containing such organisms in the lab. So I think it's fairly reasonable to say that humanity will face with natural plastic rot within the next hundred years.Am I mad?Can you imagine challenges that will bring? Think checking every plastic bit of an airplane? A car? A ship?

We used other stuff before we had plastic and material science is still evolving. Latex glove and condoms still works. And stuff made from hard plastic could be made from metals, or some form of resin instead. Hell we didn't stop using wood we learned to treat it to be more resistant.

Plus we have an issue of plastic everywhere. Maybe in the future it would be interesting to avoid using material that get everywhere and can't be recycled.

[–] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

I wouldn't worry too much about that. Plastic already degrades to a point of not being useful - it just sticks around in a way that is harmful.

Sunlight does a number on it, and it's not very abrasion resistant. It's also not great at weight bearing. We'll be ok, and if anything, better off if something breaks down plastic (as long as the byproduct excreted isn't just as bad or worse).

[–] _core@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It probably only eats a specific type of plastic. There are tons of different plastics all formulated differently, some could be toxic to the bacteria.

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

Agree, but also the nature will find the way 🥰

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Could we consider this to be a dilemma of preservation?

Let’s take something innocuous and specific, like a package of food. We want it to be airtight and safe from bacteria until a human tears it open and eats it. But once torn open, we want it to disintegrate.

Now, if we make this bacteria and allow it to spread, the same problem exists as if we were to package that food in a wooden container, or a paper container. The material is now “weak” to ambient attackers.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 9 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Rudee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 2 points 3 weeks ago

A tale of how a plastic eating bacteria moonlighted as a flesh eating one.

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

If we play our cards right, we could have a real-life Andromeda Strain.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

How does it deal with the post digestion stuff?

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 weeks ago

I've read that book, didn't end well for that civilization.
The planet was happy though.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

This one took me a few seconds.

[–] _core@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

Invented makes it sound like they came up with it from scratch. It's more likely they bred one or bioengineered one.