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Ugh, the updates.....my work PC is Win 11, I got an email from IT last night telling me I had to install the latest update I had been putting off. This morning after I clocked out I started the update. I have 500 down and it took almost 2 hours to download and 3 hours later the installation is only at 53%. I'm just going to go to bed and hope it's done by the time I have to clock in tonight.

And my coworkers wonder why I prefer Linux.....

That is a totally viable method, it's just not the one I want to pursue.

Also, yeah I don't even want to think about the taxes....

I honestly don't think even bold leadership would work at this point. Washington has spent so much time brainwashing the public to fear socialism that any bold leader on the left who suggests a plan like that without first kneecapping it would be killed in the polls because someone on the right would scream socialist and enough of the population would turn on them. And no amount of reminding the public about public roads, police, firefighters, libraries, ect. would change their minds. In my option it will take generational change to get past that mindset.

I guess I'm just stuck in the 90's mindset of trying to find compromise. I know that idea was on the decline then, but I still, maybe foolishly, hold on to it.

I could put on an Aerosmith record before I knew how to put my Disney VHS tapes in the VCR, of course then my older cousin brought over her Master of Puppets album and I fell in love with thrash. As she still likes to remind me, "I turned you into a metal head before you were out of diapers". I still love the classics too BTW.

I have been approaching this from a middle of the ground standpoint. Basically I know that a large enough percentage of Americans would reject this as "evil socialism" so putting caps on the government industry at first would be a Trojan horse to get a footing and get society comfortable with the idea.

Ultimately I would like to see companies have to compete with government offered products and services, but I just don't see it being feasible in our current political climate. Sadly I think it will either take generational change to get it done, or a more kinetic change that would harm the country and take far longer to recover from.

I have been approaching this from a middle of the ground standpoint. Basically I know that a large enough percentage of Americans would reject this as "evil socialism" so putting caps on the government industry at first would be a Trojan horse to get a footing and get society comfortable with the idea.

Ultimately I would like to see companies have to compete with government offered products and services, but I just don't see it being feasible in our current political climate. Sadly I think it will either take generational change to get it done, or a more kinetic change that would harm the country and take far longer to recover from.

Ok, now that I've had a bit of sleep (,3rd shifter here) how about the government owns the fiber a sells access to the for profit companies. But there is no monopolies so there is competition and every company is required to offer a basic package that is low cost and has enough bandwidth for the average work from home video meeting. Oh yeah, and no data caps.

After that they can increase prices and offer more services. And if somewhere like farm country isn't being served by any of the for profit companies, then the government corporation could set up an ISP and serve those citizens.

I get what you're saying, but government fiber speeds could be capped, products wouldn't be high end, ect.

I am by no means an economist, or an expert in these matters, and I apologize if I was presenting as those I was. I just feel like you should put those kind of ideas out there for others to iterate on.

While I disagree with those that feel differently, that's what this country is supposed to be about, finding a middle ground in differing opinions. Sadly we seem to have largely lost that mentality.

That is one way, and it is smart. For me I have a small amount of companies that I own and want to increase my stakes in those. The problem is they are all up at the moment. I'm waiting for a drop then I'll start buying in.

To each their own, I'll stick with my method and you can do yours. We'll just have to wait and see who's got the right idea in this uncharted landscape.

I wish you the best of luck, not sarcastically either.