I'll never understand why people even want pugs. They are not cute, they are ugly abominations. Maybe they were cute before people turned them into this.
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They used to be very cute and were functional dogs. Altdeutscher mops and retro pugs are good examples. Here's an 1800s painting of one.
They are fine in "original" fkrm, but current degenerated pugs are not cute or healthy.
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For love of dog just stop breeding. There are so many unwanted dogs already that need homes.
Mutts are better anyway. I'm biased because the best dogs I've known were not pure-bred, but still. They also are more resistant to genetic disorders...
I like to call them Bitsa dogs, like a bit of this dog a bit of that dog and you get a wicked bitsa dog.
Imagine what people would do if they were allowed to selectively breed humans
The Spanish Habsburgs.
lol
That's just called eugenics
Don’t sperm banks offer selective sperm choices based on intelligence and physical fitness?
There's ZERO regulations in that industry, they can say whatever
One of the "most prolific" sperm donors in Britain is a neo-Nazi. His sperm has been used to bring about over 140 births, but he also spends his free time planning "lone wolf" attacks.
People on 4chan were talking about that sort of thing at least 15 years ago. I think it was on /tg/, if I remember. They were also much more concerned with the trolling/ethical thought of breeding for the brain. What if you bred someone who only had the thought of serving a master?
I think that's enough evidence for me that selective breeding is horribly fucked in its outcome no matter the original aims, and the closest we should come is eliminating the 'will kill you' diseases.
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What will those clever tall bastards think of next?
I predict hairy sphynx cats
No need to do them next: "Altdeutscher Mops" is a thing already. I guess you'd call them "Old German Pugs" in English?
Still sort of grotesque in that there are probably a lot of inbetween generations that suffer. Most ethically sound idea is probably to just euthanize these breeds and end them entirely.
Retro pugs are already a thing?
Dalmatians are prone to kidney stones. It means they can’t eat foods that are high in purine. They have the same diet as a human diagnosed with gout.
In the 60s some guy started working to breed that gene out of them and created to versions of Dalmatians. HUA have the gene that causes stones. LUA do not. He did this by mixing in Pointers.
Modern LUA Dalmatians are 99.999% Dalmatian but breeders and the Dalmatian Club of America are still salty about it and refuse to accept it.
TLDR; Dalmatians LUA breed less prone to life threatening conditions, but Kennel Clubs are mad about it.
wtf.
Reminder that kennel clubs don't give a shit about animal welfare.
See how they reward German shepherds with the lowest hips possible, like car guys lower their cars until they drag on the ground with sparks flying. It's horrible for their hips and backs.
Cartoon dog after running straight into a mountain painted to look like a road vs. the same dog after using a bellows to reinflate themself.
Omq the bby looks so much happier and healthier! Happy and functional snout is far more cute ♡
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