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A Palestinian American medical student objected to working alongside IDF soldiers. The university suspended her (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] NewDayRocks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

To everyone not reading this article: "working along side IDF soldiers" in this case means being a student at a university where one professor had volunteered for a short stint to be a medic for the IDF (because, you know, Oct 7 happened)

She got suspended because she outed him (though not by name directly) in an interview and opened him up to possible harassment. The suspension is questionable and we can debate the limits of free speech in this case.

BUT she was not suspended because she refused to work with or for the IDF. That is a bs title.

[–] GreyAlien@lemm.ee 8 points 11 hours ago

Zionists are genocidal. Good on her for standing up against these fascists.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

To everyone not reading this article title: "A Palestinian American medical student objected to working alongside IDF soldiers. The university suspended her"

BUT she was not suspended because she refused to work with or for the IDF. That is a bs title.

Reread the title, it does not say that.

She refused to work with a person who contributed to the genocide against her own people. He chose to be complicit in genocide. IDF soldiers are monsters and can fuck off. We should hand this guy over to the Hague. edit: typo

[–] NewDayRocks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Is the title implying or not implying that her suspension is related to the fact that objected to working alongside IDF?

Explain to me how being a student is considered "working alongside" with a professor simply because they are both at the same school?

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Is the title implying or not implying that her suspension is related to the fact that objected to working alongside IDF?

A Palestinian American medical student objected to working alongside IDF soldiers. The university suspended her

The title says working alongside IDF soldiers. It's not implying anything.

Explain to me how being a student is considered “working alongside” with a professor simply because they are both at the same school?

At the same time, Mohammad told her Democracy Now! interviewer: “One of the professors of medicine we have at Emory recently went to serve as a volunteer medic” in the IDF. That professor, she continued, “participated in aiding and abetting a genocide, in aiding and abetting the destruction of the healthcare system in Gaza and the murder of over 400 healthcare workers, and is now back at Emory so-called ‘teaching’ medical students and residents how to take care of patients”.

Because she is a medical student and he is a professor of medicine.

[–] NewDayRocks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

So I had a teacher in HS that worked at NASA. Was I working alongside NASA scientists when I was 15?

Furthermore, the article never specified that she was HIS student. They may have never interacted at all.

I can accept she doesn't want to be affiliated in any way with Israel (good luck with that), but the title puts two sentences together where the first is false and the second is unrelated.

A Palestinian American medical student objected to working alongside IDF soldiers. The university suspended her

The title says working alongside IDF soldiers. It's not implying anything.

I like how you ignore the second sentence though to make a false point

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

I genuinely don't understand what point you are trying to make.

He volunteered for the IDF. That makes him an IDF soldier.

He's a Professor at her medical faculty. That means she has to work with him to get her degree.

She refused to do that.

The university suspended her.

If NASA was in the habit of exploding babies, you'd've been well within your right to not want to have any contact with your HS teacher either.

[–] GreyAlien@lemm.ee 5 points 8 hours ago

It’s called whitewashing war criminals.

[–] NewDayRocks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

He's a Professor at her medical faculty. That means she has to work with him to get her degree.

Maybe this is an English issue, but generally students learn from, not work with their teachers. But again, the article does not actually mention he is her professor, only that they are at the same school. We don't know that they have any interaction at this school.

She refused to do that.

The university suspended her.

Except that's not why she was suspended. They suspended her for giving an interview where she calls out the professor for volunteering to provide medical services for the IDF. Since she was leading the campus protests, this was considered targeted harassment.

The title is wrong and misleading. A more accurate title would be "University student suspended for outing a pro-Israel professor in interview", but i guess truth doesn't get clicks.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 hours ago

Many students, specifically PhD students, also work for the university. I didn't say "work under", I said "work with", as in, work at the same faculty, i.e. they are coworkers.

She called him out publicly for volunteering for a foreign military currently enacting a genocide. It's a big stretch to call that "outing" or "public harassment".

And nowhere does the headline claim something different.

[+] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 21 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Death to them all, the satanic scum on Earth.

I was debating whether this rhetoric was effective or to easily misconstrued as antisemitic and then this other user writes:

In the end, she’s discriminating against a protected class: national-origin.

Dude, you don't go hard enough with your rhetoric. People unironically believe that if a fascist government drafts you into the military you simply have no choice but to genocide as many people as possible.

Fuck me, I am Jewish. Not in my name! The IDF is committing genocide. Fuck the IDF. Do not let them slide because they were just following orders. Holy shit!

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

It's most certainly not effective, it was something I wrote in anger. Calling for the death of anyone is generally not advisable, and I usually don't, but reading this made my blood boil more than normal.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Discriminating against "National origin"? We're all from somewhere aren't we? If I refused to work with a KKK member do I get fired because he's "American" and the KKK is an American hate group?

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 19 hours ago

According to users in this thread apparently. This national origin rhetoric is absurd. Fuck that and fuck the KKK.

[+] dick_fineman@discuss.online -8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

Israel has conscription/compulsory military-service. There are exceptions for certain super-religious cases, etc., but pretty much if they were born and raised in Israel (i.e. an "Israeli National"), you can say they were probably required to be "IDF soldiers" without really having a choice in the matter. but "Palestinian-American medical student objected to working alongside Israeli-national. The university suspended her" doesn't induce as much rage. In the end, she's discriminating against a protected class: national-origin.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

The penalty for refusing the serve in the IDF is around 1-2 months of prison time. For the people who refuse to engage in ethnic cleansing, doing 30-60 days of prison time instead is far far more ethical

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So your argument is that Israeli nationals should be absolved from any war crimes and/or genocide they participate in because they were just following orders?

Using national origin as an excuse for participating in genocide is peak genocide denial.

In the end, she’s discriminating against a protected class: national-origin.

This is the same as equating protesting Russia's invasion of Ukraine as xenophobia against Russians.

I highly recommend reassessing your world view. Your arguments are a one to one match with fascists arguments.

[–] dick_fineman@discuss.online 1 points 3 minutes ago

Uh, no. No it's not. If someone refused to work with anyone who was Russian, or who took on a non-combatant role when conscripted in the current war (such as a Medic), then it would be comparable.

I'm glad she was suspended. Bye bye!

[–] smitty053@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Tell me you didn’t read the article without telling me.

[–] dick_fineman@discuss.online 1 points 5 minutes ago

Four years into her studies, 7 October happened. After watching Israel’s deadly retaliation on Gaza in horror from afar, in January 2024, Mohammad sent an email to the entire medical school with the subject: “Palestinian blood stains your hands, Emory University and School of Medicine.” She railed against her fellow students and the school’s faculty for being “silent about the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians”.

10/7 being an attempted ethnic cleansing of her side against Jews.

When Mohammad went into the Democracy Now! interview in April, she was already upset about what she saw as an immoral double standard. Months earlier, an Emory medical school professor, Abeer N AbouYabis, had been fired after posting on Facebook in support of Palestinians after the events of 7 October. Her post included the phrase: “They got walls, we got gliders / Glory to all resistance fighters,” a reference to the way members of Hamas glided over walls in Gaza to enter Israel and stage their attack. According to a report on AbouYabis’s firing by Emory’s committee for open expression, her post was seen as “glorifying” the group.

At the same time, Mohammad told her Democracy Now! interviewer: “One of the professors of medicine we have at Emory recently went to serve as a volunteer medic” in the IDF. That professor, she continued, “participated in aiding and abetting a genocide, in aiding and abetting the destruction of the healthcare system in Gaza and the murder of over 400 healthcare workers, and is now back at Emory so-called ‘teaching’ medical students and residents how to take care of patients”.

She's an unhinged hate-filled Jew-hater. I'm glad she was suspended.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 11 points 21 hours ago

Emory University is the name of the university missing from the headline