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[–] lostbit@feddit.nl 2 points 1 hour ago

i don’t believe you

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Mod support? Between this and Skyblivion, the one with better mod support wins.

[–] duchess@feddit.org 2 points 7 hours ago

probably non-existent

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I wonder, can they just cease&desist Skyblivion off the map?

[–] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 1 points 50 minutes ago

You can send a cease and desist for any reason to anyone at anytime.

But they wouldn't be able to win in court, the eula of both games explicitly allow using their IP in mods

[–] j0hax@feddit.org 2 points 7 hours ago
[–] Yokozuna@lemmy.world 31 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Can't wait for them to remaster skyrim again before TES6

[–] DireTech@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago

You joke, but I’d totally be down with an update that integrates better graphics technology and reduces modding issues. Ive played through it half a dozen times in VR and 2d and there’s still plenty of content I haven’t done. Only issue I have these days is the small pool of voice actors so every 5th person has the same voice.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 80 points 22 hours ago

I’ll wait for Skyblivion 🔥

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 58 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Anything to avoid discussing TES6.

[–] Sabin10@lemmy.world 53 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

What, the announcement trailer from 2018 isn't enough to hold you over until it launches in 2029?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 19 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I kinda wonder if they even have any good ideas left after Starfield was such a disappointment in the creativity department.

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 6 points 20 hours ago

It's still going to sell really well even if it's just pretty Skyrim.

[–] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 44 points 22 hours ago

Yeah its called skyblivion.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 40 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (5 children)

oblivion is my favorite in the series, but goddammit bethesda stop making remakes. make a make.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Come on man, gotta get a Morrowind with modern QOL stuff.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 31 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, Starfield should have been my dream game, but after that...

I dunno. All my enthusiasm for BGS has been sapped, and I adored Oblvion.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

the scope for starfield was just too much, it was doomed to fail from the beginning. i think they'll be fine going back to their TES roots.

[–] dukepontus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

eh, i don't see any reason why they can't churn out another TES or FO like they have been for years. my problems with starfield were mostly unique to the galaxy map and space.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The remake is not developed by Bethesda Game Studios

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I bet the remake will be fine, it's just technical upgrades, no new writing or anything. Maybe not as "soulful" as Skyblivion, but fine.

What I am more worried about is "fun" writing and storytelling in new games.

EDIT: Wrong reply, but you get the idea @acosmichippo@lemmy.world

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Why take a third risk (Fallout 76 and Starfield) on the unknown when you can remake a good thing?

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

FO76 and Starfield were much much more risky than TES6 or FO5 will be.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 21 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Aww man, are they going to take down Skyblivion right when its done?

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Bethesda has actually been consistently supportive of Skyblivion, Morroblivion, and Skywind.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Probably the only reason they did it

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Or, perhaps optimistically, it's to prepare themselves to transition off of their absurdly dated engine.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Unless they switch to one of the current Gen engines available, they will keep using the one they have, they just updated it's now the creation engine 2... and that was for starfield and ES6. And it seemed like the same engine for starfield.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

This remake is allegedly going to be in Unreal. Even if ES6 is in Creation, their next project can move to something better.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

If it is in Unreal, that's going to be interesting. Presumably, mod support is out the window then.

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[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Wait a moment. Oblivion is turning 20 years old ??? 😥

[–] Sonemonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago
[–] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 8 points 21 hours ago

Oh man, I can't wait for them to reveal it, so I can finally know about it.

[–] butter@midwest.social 2 points 18 hours ago

Eh. I just want OGblivion on Android, since that's all I seem to get to play anymore.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Are they still using their twenty year old engine?

[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Unreal Engine is 26 years old. id Tech is 30 years old. What's your point?

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

But it's not made on UE 1, now, is it?

[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

No, just like how the current Creation Engine version is not the same as the first one from 20 years ago.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That's the issue with the current creation engine; it kind of is. That is what's meant with "20 year old engine".

The updates the creation engine has been having over the years are more like bandaids. Meanwhile unreal gets damn-near rebuilt from the ground up fir every major version release.

[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

UE doesn't get "near rebuilt from the ground up every major release", that would be an absurd waste of time and resources every time. It's being updated and iterated over, just like how CE is.

The problem here is that you don't like Bethesda games and jumped on the bandwagon of armchair developers using the engine as a scapegoat, ignoring the fact that many other mainstream game engines are just as old or more.

Creation Engine is the least of Bethesda's games problems, it's their game design that's the big issue and the reason why thinks are so bleak.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

That engine is ancient and their game design needs an upgrade. A lot of the quests were so bland in Starfield that I watched the credits to see how many designers they had on them. It was like...6. Thousands of planets, 6 quest designers. If your quest is, "go here, push a button, and come back," just don't bother putting the quest in the game.

Likewise, Oblivion's conversation system probably looked immaculate compared to old Elder Scrolls games at the time, but Starfield is outclassed next to Mass Effect 1 from 2007, not to mention The Witcher 3 or Baldur's Gate 3. And for how much people like that their towns are filled with NPCs on a schedule, it would be nice if that system led to anything more sophisticated than the thieving tricks people used 20 years ago.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

You have... No idea what you're talking about.

I don't like Bethesda games? The amount of time I've spent on Oblivion, Skyrim, and Fallout 4 says otherwise. Hell, I'm right now doing yet another playthrough of Skyrim.

The best way to understand what's wrong with the creation engine, and how woefully out-dated it is, is to listen to what modders have to deal with constantly. The creation engine is hardly a serious upgrade of Gamebrio and BGE only puts in the minimal effort into actually updating it.

At its core, and the major reason why exploration is so stilted in Starfield, is that the creation engine just isn't capable of solving the floating point problems with seamless worlds, which other engines ARE capable of. Pathfinding generation and animation sorting hasn't been seriously updated since Oblivion, and the Papyrus script engine still has the same 200 limit it had since Morrowind, a limitation that was there because of hardware of that time, but forcing Papyrus to go over the 200 limit causes Bethesda games to become unstable.

Yes, it's BGE and their practices that are the problem, and it's reflected in how they maintain their engine too.

[–] Sabin10@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Noooo, creation engine 2 is new, it definitely not a ball of bandaids wrapped around the netimmerse engine that was released in 1997.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Twenty eight year old engine?

Leonardo DiCaprio would be mortified.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The thing is, the age of the engine doesn't say anything. The Unreal Engine started its development before 1998. But you do have to put in work to upgrade an engine over time and Bethesda doesn't have Fortnite money for that.

[–] falidorn@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

No, they have Skyrim money for that. Imagine making money off of a game for over a decade, while barely putting money towards rereleases/ports. Didn’t even need a team for patches or content updates.

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