Disney really made the MCU great up to and including Endgame. It should have ended after that but Disney could not stop ass fucking that cash cow to tears. Now we are left with garbage. I followed the MCU since the beginning with hulk/iron man. I miss the old MCU. Never cared for black widow though
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Even the actors are exhausted with the MCU.
I mean, that's the negative POV. It may simply be that she said goodbye to the character and has no interest in revisiting it again
It's the same effing thing over and over. Same with dinsey beating the dead corpse of Star Wars. Don't they have any new, different ideas? Or are they gonna make 5000000000000 movies about the same shit?
Disney paid $4.05 billion for star wars. you bet your bottom dollar they're going to beat that dead horse until there's nothing left
Have you ever read comic books?
I read them both.
I, too, have read all two Marvel comic books.
Ooh, they have another one?
Nope
The second option
I mean, I feel the same way about character deaths. It's an overused trope. Let's have them quietly working in the background, like a capable spy would, eh? I think comics should have long ago embraced having their superheroes 'retire' by simply being background mentions from time to time, rather than have big dramatic deaths and torch passing.
MCU doesn't need to bring her back, they have fantastic 4, x-men, and all their villains to handle now. Enough to make another 20 years of movies.
If they really want her back, they’ll do it. “Whoa, I can’t believe the Russians cloned her, then turned her into a man, then the obvious dysphoria stemming from it caused her to turn traitor and join shield. I can’t believe she looks completely different now!” Far from the weirdest comic plot line
RDJ being Dr. Doom makes me think it's just going to be Tony Stark "but what if he was evil" since Iron Man and Dr. Doom have relatively similar schticks. (Keyword: relatively. Nobody should read this and feel the need to tell me why they're different. I only mean they're both egotistical geniuses in metal armor.)
There actually was a storyline where Viktor stole Tony's body and life. Leaving Tony with amnesia in his body and deported back to latveria. Except Viktor Tony became a good version of doom and Tony Viktor became an evil iron man.
But… but we’re still waiting for the Black Widow and Deadpool crossover…
I would watch a whole sitcom in the style of "Married With Children" with Natashas sleeper agent family.
This is just me, but I always felt her acting talents were wasted in the MCU. Same with Brie Larson.
They got her early. She had a few solid credits to her name when she did Iron Man 2, but the smart MCU move at that point was to recruit young-ish talent and get them signed on for multi-movie contracts relatively cheap. Hopefully what we all get out of that sort of arrangement is that talented actors make enough MCU money to go off and do whatever out-there artsy stuff that creatively appeals to them and fosters their talents, rather than having to plug away in garbage movies just to pay the bills.
She was definitely a name before Ironman 2 with movies like "Lost in Translation", "The Island", "Girl with a pearl earring", "Black Dahlia" to name a few.
I remember people being excited about seeing her in Ironman 2.
You are right that they grabbed cheaper people originally, but they werent unknown names.
I agree on Scarlet but not on Brie Larson, I find most characters she plays to be bland or not move me as much.
While Scarlet in Lucy, Dark Blue and ghost in the shell really really make it clear how good of an actress she is.
I was very surprised to discover it was her in Room (not The Room).
What about when she played Envy Adams on Scott Pilgrim!
I mean it was a smaller role years ago, but I loved it.
For Scarlett, I think she was amazing in Marriage Story.
Great song by Metric. Black Sheep
Larson did the vocals in the movie version of the song. Sounds just like Emily Haines.
I didn't know it was actually her in scott pilgrim, tought it was a good imitation. That is amazing.
Will add marriage story to my watchlist, can't remember having seen it.
They brought her back over and over in the What If? series.
Maybe the real issue is that the whole MCU just needs to die.
Personally I feel like it died with the resolving arc from Infinity war Part 2, when Thanos got beaten. I'm good to have it left there.
GOTG3 ended their arc pretty neatly too.
And even if I watch every marvel movie moving forward, I imagine it as being alternate timeline to the true ending. (a bit the same thing as the zelda timeline with hero defeated/hero won things)
As director she gave us several glorious ass shots to remember her by. Her work here is done.
She's just so goddamn hot. Love a strong, capable redhead.
I usually don't say these things out loud
It's time you started! We should be more open about positivity in the world today
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Every Marvel hero I like has died and come back multiple times. Why should Black Widow be any different? It doesn't make them less of a hero. It doesn't diminish their sacrifice. It just allows the character to continue being loved in new stories.
Maybe they shouldn't bring people back, so a death actually means something.
When did black widow die? Either i didn't bother to see the movie or i forgot
During End Game.
I watched end game. Dont remeber her dieing. Heh
!She dies when they go back in time to get the soul stone. Gamora was sacraficed by Thanos to originally get the stone, Black widow gives her life so Hawkeye can live the second time around.!<
Yeah, and there was a similar plot line I think in the comics in infinity war 2 where something similar happened to Gamora but she was actually >!trapped inside the soul stone and they went in to break her out !<
It’s probably shameful for me to mention it, but I don’t think that I have seen Endgame more than the single time I saw it in theaters. It’s two very long movies to keep up with and then there’s so much going on that I’m not able to focus on a single character. I think that’s one reason that I’ve really enjoyed Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man. Stakes are much lower and there’s several characters, but they are manageable to keep track of because most of them are just normal supporting characters and not main characters in other movies about them.
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It happened in the boring 2 hours
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