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We regret to inform you that people write credulous shit about "AI" on Wikipedia as if that is morally OK.

Both of these are somewhat less bad than they were when I first noticed them, but they're still pretty bad. I am puzzled at how the latter even exists. I had thought that there were rules against just making a whole page about a neologism, but either I'm wrong about that or the "rules" aren't enforced very strongly.

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reflection (artificial intelligence) is dreck of a high order. It cites one arXiv post after another, along with marketing materials directly from OpenAI and Google themselves... How do the people who write this shit dress themselves in the morning without pissing into their own socks?

[–] self@awful.systems 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

and of course, not a single citation for the intro paragraph, which has some real bangers like:

This process involves self-assessment and internal deliberation, aiming to enhance reasoning accuracy, minimize errors (like hallucinations), and increase interpretability. Reflection is a form of "test-time compute," where additional computational resources are used during inference.

because LLMs don’t do self-assessment or internal deliberation, nothing can stop these fucking things from hallucinating, and the only articles I can find for “test-time compute” are blog posts from all the usual suspects that read like ads and some arXiv post apparently too shitty to use as a citation

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

on the one hand, I want to try find which ~~vendor marketing material~~ "research paper" that paragraph was copied from, but on the other... after yesterday's adventures trying to get data out of PDFs and c.o.n.s.t.a.n.t.l.y getting "hey how about this LLM? it's so good![0]" search results, I'm fucking exhausted

[0]: also most of these are paired with pages of claims of competence and feature boasts, and then a quiet "psssst: also it's a service and you send us your private data and we'll do with it whatever we want" as hidden as they can manage

[–] mountainriver@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

From topic and lack of citation I just assumed that they had an LLM write it.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago

my post: "Created: Monday, February 3rd, 2025 at 7:44:32 PM GMT+02:00"

wikipedia article: "11:58, 3 March 2025"

worst game of internet sweepstakes ever

[–] zogwarg@awful.systems 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

More distressingly the vibe coding article seems to have been nominated and approved for the "Did you know" section with very little discussion: webarchive:wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know/Approved#Vibe_coding

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

None of my acquaintances who have Wikipedian insider experience have much familiarity with the "Did you know" box. It seems like a niche within a niche that operates without serious input from people who care about the rest of the project.

"In The News" is apparently also an editor clique with its own weird dynamics, but it doesn't elevate as many weird tiny articles to the Main Page because the topics there have to be, you know, in the news.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

yeah, "Did you know" exists to encourage new articles, or major expansions of old ones. it cycles every six hours I think.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 5 points 19 hours ago

From how they're labeled, I think they cycle every day?

[–] self@awful.systems 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

also lol @

Vibe coding, sometimes spelled vibecoding

cause I love the kayfabe linguistic drift for a term that’s not even a month old that’s probably seen more use in posts making fun of the original tweet than any of the shit the Wikipedia article says

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 20 points 1 day ago

Promptfondler (from Old French prompette-fondeleur)

[–] self@awful.systems 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

did you know: you too can make your dreams come true with Vibe Coding (tm) thanks to this article’s sponsors:

Replit Agent, Cursor Composer, Pythagora, Bolt, Lovable, and Cline

and other shameful assholes with cash to burn trying to astroturf a term from a month old Twitter brainfart into relevance

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"Vibe coding? Back in my day, we called it teledildonics."

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

this would explain so much about the self-declared 10x programmers I’ve met

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago

10x programmers used to be a real thing but they got obsoleted by TOPS-20.