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[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

A friend of mine asked me recently, was I gonna go see the new Batman movie with him. I don’t respect the concept of Batman because of what I understand about politics now.

I’mma lay it out for you. Rich dude owns a corporation, has state of the art equipment, and he uses this to beat up on street-level crime. He doesn’t mess with the industrialists, or the super capitalists, the Murdochs, or the Trumps. He really just fucks with the person that’s just on the corner.

Batman is a conservative’s wet dream. Fuck Batman.

Reginald D. Hunter, Have I Got News For You (May 9, 2008)

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago

Always mildly annoyed by this type of meme.

First and foremost: Gotham is fucked. Like... really fucked. Evil secret societies run the place, the water supply is very likely poisoned in various ways, both conventionally and naturally, there's ancient evils buried under the city that have been corrupting it for centuries, a portal to hell in the asylum. We can say "Oh surely a food bank would help" and Wayne absolutely does do that via foundations in both of his parents names.... but all the shit to erase systemic poverty in the world can exist and The Joker, Zsasz, Mr. Pyg, The Court of Owls, Solomon Grundy, and the like are still going to be doing their shit (Not to mention big alien threats like Darkseid.). Likely most of his villains would still be on their grind except maybe Mr. Freeze who actually could have his problems solved by money.

Secondly: You gotta suspend disbelief. Make Superman a transitional power source and no one is gonna read it anymore, even if it would be 'realistic'. Any number of heroes could readily solve a number of the worlds issues. Why doesn't Iron Man put Arc reactors everywhere to power the world on clean energy? How come Storm doesn't get rid of every hurricane before it starts? Why doesn't Ice Man freeze up the poles and cool the planet down? The Flash could instantly deliver supplies to places in need. It's realistic, but it's boring, and boring doesn't sell comics. Okay, maybe Ruins but that couldn't be like... a whole series.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 21 points 12 hours ago (2 children)
[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Isn’t the genie in the original story a trickster?

The genie will probably make everyone poor when Aladdin wishes for more equality.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

If they start making kids shows have revolutionary heroes, it would be too "woke" and get banned.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 1 points 55 minutes ago

After all, how long has it been since any version of Robin Hood was on the screen?

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Changing the skin colour is enough "woke" to get banned. If kids shows have revolutionary heroes they'd drop bombs from helicopters on their studio like they did to people in Philadelphia all the way back in the distant memories of 1985.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

As a Philadelphian... I just wanted to say...

hears Helicopter sounds

Noooo they traced my IP and found my Lemmy account 😱 I'm gonna di

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

Duck... and coverrrr! 🎶

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 20 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

So I'm playing Arkham Asylum and, like, the very beginning of the game you open some doors and shut down electrically powered things by just blowing up the connected panel with a batarang, but then later on you need another tool that blows them up via some kind of frequency overload. If I am still just blowing up the box, why can't I hit it with something or even use my actual explosives? Taking the "bat logic" to game mechanics too. lol

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

A sticky Batarang with juicy C4 filling would make sense and keep the theme

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I am pretty sure that's even another tool later on. I've seen plenty of walls you can blow up, but positioned in a way you'd have to throw/shoot something that I do not yet have.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 50 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

A rich guy dressing up in body armor and going around beating up poor people to fight systemic corruption is the most believable part of the whole Batman franchise. In his original incarnation he had a gun too.

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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 18 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

In the recent movies, he, or the Wayne foundation, does give a lot of money to charities in the city, and built the monorail system as well.

[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I thought his parents built/funded the monorail?

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

he, or the Wayne foundation,

[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Fair, but riding on the accomplishments of your parents is pretty nepobaby...

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago

It was also canon that Wayne foundation funded the orphanage in Gotham.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 7 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

A fucking monorail is some Musk type bullshit.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

The comic writers aren't researching the technical details. The important part is is that they built public transit.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 hours ago

I hear those things are awfully loud.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 5 points 13 hours ago

I mean, it's essentially just the metro... but above ground. Except that above ground location is out of the way of existing ground-layer infrastructure like sidewalks and roads.

In essence, it's just the benefits of a metro line with the added benefit of taking up less space from existing areas that can be used for transport. If you already have roads, sidewalks, and metro lines in an area, a monorail can just be another way to get around on top of all that without sacrificing space.

I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's a cool mode of transit, and can be genuinely useful in some cases.

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 65 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

In Batman begins, the issue is corruption.

Everyone knows Falcone is guilty but no one has the legal ability to arrest him.

So Bruce Wayne becomes a vigilante in a more Luigi kind of way in which he is willing to risk things cause he has the tools to do it right.

The whole point of Batman is doing all he can with his resources, even if that means breaking the law.

But yeah, we know today that the most effective thing he can do is not even charity, but pay for lobbying

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 22 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's a feature in all superhero media. They don't touch the status quo, or the systems we live in. It's always the fault of a few rotten apples and they're taken care of. Normal people don't need to apply, it's up to a few people with special power to fix it. And in reality, people with money see themselves as more special and empowered than normal people.

[–] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 hours ago

Those who pursue power or money and nothing else are statistically more likely to achieve the most money or power. It's a filter or selection process. So a 100 billionaires are much much less likely to care, or to know, how a society should function except for what they learned and practiced: capitalism as the wealthy exploiting the masses and buying political power to gain more money.

They are narrow minded nerds in their own specific fields. Techbro's reprogramming reality. In that way the villains stupidly applying their narrow minded views or delusions to social problems is a quite fitting metaphor.

So even if Bruce Wayne would pay lobbyists and donate to political campaigns and do it wisely, he would be the rare exception and outspend 100:1.

[–] Kompressor@lemmy.world 34 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (5 children)

It's extremely spot on that instead of doing obvious things that would better the city they just invest in a bunch of industry and tech instead. Very on the nose. Especially the Dark Knight Rises Batman where he had a clean energy program that was the answer to the energy crisis or whatever they were in but he just didn't do it because he thought 'the world wasn't ready'.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm more pissed that Tony Stark having a clean energy solution was a central part of Ironman 1 and forgotten about in ever sequel. It could have been a theme of Ironman 2 if they aligned if Justin Hammer was invested in dirty energy and offered a juxtaposition to Thanos's nihilistic environmentalism.

Problem is, by the time you're successful in Hollywood, you're invested in the status quo and it shows.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 1 points 48 minutes ago

I don't think it was plot relevant anymore, so we don't hear much about it; but wasn't an investment in clean energy mentioned in passing on one of the Avengers movies?

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[–] TheImpressiveX@lemm.ee 86 points 1 day ago (20 children)

Here's a Tumblr post about how different versions of Bruce Wayne (comic books, animated series, etc.) have donated huge sums of money to charities and other improvements to Gotham City.

[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 55 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (12 children)

Meh. Only suckers give a shit about the “generosity” of billionaires. Tax them. Tax them down to millionaire status. Why should they dictate what programs get funded? It’s never worked before.. it’s not suddenly going to start now.

I mean, your own tumblr link is proof of that. After all, Gotham’s still a crime ridden shithole, isn’t it? Clearly Bruce Wayne doesn’t know what Gotham actually needs.

[–] alp@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago

In Turkey, our taxes are going to other billionaires anyway...

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