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[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 65 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure only people on the internet argue about this. No one actually cares what other's do with their last name after marriage.

This post has 2017 reddit vibes. Not in a good way either.

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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 269 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Sorry OP but this kinda gives "EPIC: WOKE FEMINAZI OWNED ON CAMERA" vibes.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 118 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

Yeah... it can be interpreted that way. But even as a feminist myself, it is a dumb performative sort of protest. Paternal surnames are the least important fixtures of our patriarchal society, and, unless it was created wholecloth, there are no surnames that aren't patriarchal historically, as the meme points out.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I wasn't trying to call you a misogynist, just point out how the meme might look at first glance.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wasn't my post, just advocating for OP

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago (5 children)

That's the point, but satirically. The fact that homelander is the second frame immediately means the take is bad.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 38 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Sweet child... The amount of people who don't see homelander is scary

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[–] MBM@lemmings.world 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

OP's comments don't seem very satyrical :')

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[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago

I don't think that's obvious to anyone who hasn't watched that movie/series/whatever. At least it wasn't obvious to me, because I don't know that guy.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Not so sure. It may just as well be that OP thinks Homelander is the cool guy and the meme is meant unironically. Their comments here suggest that and their posts are mostly comprised of golf and borderline sexist / boomer jokes

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[–] vzq@lemmy.world 158 points 4 days ago

It’s a shit post, I’ll give you that.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 68 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

with no ill will for you, OP, genuinely fuck this boomer ass “joke”

a woman’s name is her name. she lives with it for 1 lifetime, absolutely no shorter than her grandfather does. “male” is not somehow the default human identity. stop trying to enforce that standard.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I think the point of the joke might be more that an attempt to start a matrilineal naming scheme is foiled somewhat from the fact that the maiden name of the mother is derived from her father, i.e. you can't escape that the last names all come from patrilineal sources for generations.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (4 children)

If a woman is committed to the idea, she could break the patrilineal naming convention simply by creating herself a new last name, and encouraging her children to take that name instead of their father's.

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[–] Onionguy@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Love the little respectful preamble you put there, can we make that internet discussion standard plz.?

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[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 100 points 4 days ago (14 children)

When people get married they should come up with a completely new last name for them both.

[–] raoul@lemmy.sdf.org 103 points 4 days ago (6 children)
[–] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 80 points 4 days ago (2 children)

our beautiful baby boy Robert 3de2d34e-a089-4a5a-acd8-b00d7c7eb07a

[–] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

I mean it's not far off from Musk's X AE ZigZag VII Advent Children and Kkkopernicus Diceware Password kids.

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[–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

Calm down Enoch Root

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[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago (2 children)

A coworker of mine did this. He and his new wife took parts of their last names and blended them together to create a unique new last name for both of them.

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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Terrible idea. People clearly already struggling at naming kids. Coming up with a family name will be endless letters making the wrong sound, random sections being 'silent', so many puns or references to things, corporate advertising "oh it's the X.com family!"... Terrible, just terrible.

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[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 4 days ago (19 children)

A lot of last names here are frozen patronyms (e.g. at some point some dude named Hans had kids; now there are lots of people calling themselves his son, Hansen) or place names. I kinda like the place name bit: Just give kids last names to a place they have a connection to. Where they were born or conceived or something.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 46 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I know this is a shitposting community but these are, every goddamn one of them, the dumbest possible takes you could have opened a new year with.

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Its not an unusual thing for lesbian couples to pick a new surname for themselves.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Make up your own surname to assert dominance. Or go by your internet handle.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Reminder that surnames didn't exist before the middle ages, you just had a singular name that people shouted to get your attention. Since you lived in a community of several dozen people, you didn't need to do much to differentiate yourself from the other "John" in your town because everyone knows each other. You lived and died just as "John" and would be remembered by your kids for a generation if you were lucky. There was no need to keep track of genealogy, you were a pair of hands and legs, you were supposed to get out there and plow that field and that's all your baron or lord cared about.

But somewhere after the black plague ravaged Europe and we lost a sizeable chunk of the human population, suddenly workers became in high-demand. Industrialist lords and landowners suddenly didn't have people smithing their horse shoes or making their bread, so they had to go poach people from far away towns and suddenly workers had power and options. As a way to get noticed for your family's tradeskill, you would have been wise to advertise this to wealthy employers, the best way was to attach your trade to your name. You were now John Baker to differentiate yourself from John the Drunkard if anyone came looking to hire someone who could cook bread.

So surnames are advertising. It's all it's ever been. There's nothing ancient and special about your name, it was just how your ancestors tried to make a buck.

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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 28 points 4 days ago (32 children)

Unpopular opinion: Last names are inherently patriarchal and so is marriage

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 days ago (7 children)

On Spain we have two last names, one for the father other for the mother.

And while before the father's was always the first, since many years couples of newborn babies can choose the order of the surnames.

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[–] dingus@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (14 children)

Yeah I've always thought it was weird that women are supposed to give up their identity to a man to be married. I'm not really sure why hyphenated names aren't as popular in the western world or why people don't occasionally chose to take the woman's name. I know that women don't have to change their names, but then often you'll have the kids as the same name as the father anyway but not the mother. So I've heard many women say that they did it so their kids would share their last name.

Hell, I don't even like my father. But my name is who I am and I like it.

[–] Lauchmelder@feddit.org 13 points 4 days ago (8 children)

with hyphenated names: what would the children do then? you can't keep adding more and more names like that (both practically and legally in some cases). serious question because I've also thought about that

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[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Jokes on you, my dad took my mom's name

[–] bradd@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Your dad took your mother's dads name.

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

Yeah, my mom said she didn't care about taking my dad's last name, that it didn't matter since, in her words "women don't have last names anyway" they are just a way of tracing men's family lines.

[–] fargeol@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you didn't know, Spanish people have two names: the first name of their father and the first name of their mother.

Since these names are their grandfathers names, here's a better proposal : the first name of your father and the second name of your mother. In that case, your first name corresponds to a bloodline of men and your second name to a bloodline of women... Unless their was a same-sex couple in your family, obviously.

Bonus point, since you get your Y chromosome (if you have one) from your biological father and your mitochondrial DNA from your biological mother, your names correspond to your actual DNA... Unless you're adopted or illegitimate, obviously.

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[–] ngn@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

why yall having a war in the comments? its a silly meme about last names, who the actual fuck cares?

[–] Ilandar@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

Because their entire poltical and world view is based on identity politics. They cannot simply say "that joke sucked" and move on, they have to make it into yet another virtue signalling exercise and lecture everyone else because that is the behaviour they associate with being a "good person".

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

People online do not understand jokes. I refuse to believe anyone in real life would be this dense.

In real life people would see this lol and move on, on the internet they write dissertations about some BS to virtue signal to other strangers how enlightened they are..... 🙄

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