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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 87 points 1 week ago (43 children)

If everyone just said fuck it and stopped paying their insurance, it would crash not just those companies, but domino into taking out the entire stock market.

Like, these companies are worth so much, and they invest in others and people invest in them. If their entire revenue stream is stopped at once that's it.

Which makes it kind of a nuclear option, one I've intentionally not mentioned and haven't seen anyone else either.

But the day may be coming

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Corporations mainly pay for health insurance. Imagine employee's reactions being told they were getting cut off. Not going to happen.

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[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago

Interesting idea, but you’d need to get employers on board. Many of whom are publicly traded companies.

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[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago

Somebody call Luigi.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 81 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Just wish the US would get a universal healthcare system like every freaking other developed country in this world. Will never happen. Ugh.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 week ago (20 children)

Nah, the Republicans would rather see you spend twice as much per capita (the whole population!) to cover a third of the population via public insurance and then get you guys to then spend money on private insurance and then have to pay any time you need any care.

You know... Fiscal responsibility...

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 72 points 1 week ago
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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Single payer healthcare is so complex to implement that only 22 of the 23 most developed countries in the world have done it.

The US system is grotesque.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

The US system is state sanctioned terrorism of the civilian population by the plutocracy, for profit.

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[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 55 points 1 week ago

Ha ha ha. Pop pop pop.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

They do in other modern countries. Oh wait, except they don't have "uninsured" people. If your government can't guarantee you basic things like clean air and water, protection, health... what the fuck are you paying taxes for!?

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

what the fuck are you paying taxes for!?

dead brown kids!

[–] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dont forget the billionaires!

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[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

More lanes for more roads, because more lanes will definitely fix gridlock

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When the denying starts, the deposing starts.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Those who make peaceful reform impossible make violent revolution inevitable."

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

RFK Jr.'s Uncle is rolling in the grave

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Probably his father too.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He really has talent in choosing all his picks. "Ummm who could be the worst person ever to fill this role?"

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every one of those terrible picks has been a deliberate, careful choice to destabilize the country.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Except the NASA guy. He's probably pretty good. But his job is to funnel contracts (and therfore billions of dollars) to spacex.

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[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Just think: you all did the right thing, holding your nose at the polls, voting for Fetterman to block Oz. And now you have both of them.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Life, uh, finds a way...

[–] Subtracty@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Not fucking happy about it. Worst possible outcome.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Brain damage causes conservatism.

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[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Isn't life already pay to play enough? How much blood can you get from a stone?

[–] Disgruntled@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're going to keep squeezing to find out.

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[–] Gorram_Reavers@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

Delay, deny, depose

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Under your plan, UnitedHealth’s revenue from Medicare Advantage would roughly double to $274 billion annually,” the Democrats wrote.

That's the point.

I'd like to see another outcome, like the government withdrawing their contracts due to fraud, but regulatory capture is strong here.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

what he really meant is that non millionaires dont deserve world class health care

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago
[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

America Last. WTF, the Government of Putin wants an epidemic to break out. How many people in the red run welfare counties would be affected by Dr. Oz's plan? Indeed, a shit ton and they voted for it.

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[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Oz went on to explain that most people have misread the Constitution and Bill of rights, people can have life OR liberty OR the pursuit of happiness. Only the rich will get all three...

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

What a piece of shit.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

Considering that the majority of the GOP electorate is in the bottom-50% of incomes, this becomes very much a “leopards ate my face” moment.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's neat watching lemmy's centrists acting like they object to the idea of letting people go bankrupt and die, in that order, for insurance companies' bottom lines.

Democrats killed the public option before a single Republican voted on the bill. Joe Lieberman was enough of a Democrat to run for VP, and you don't get to disown him just because he did what you wanted but don't want to admit wanting. And it's not like he did what every centrist wanted by his lonesome, either. Ben Nelson was instrumental in killing the public option.

Biden promised that he was going to revisit the public option. Like so much of what he promised, it was always a fucking lie.

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[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dr. Oz is a charlatan who's allowed to exist because the vitamin and supplement industry lobbied against FDA oversight and won.

He's the literal product of corruption.

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