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Well we all know it's true, Trump is mentally weak and is easily manipulated by President Musk.

[–] wicked_observer@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago

We really need to lean into this

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 266 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Reporters need to start asking trump how he likes working with such a wealthy person as Musk...

Their egos are too big to coexist

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 106 points 3 days ago

They should ask Trump if, while hanging around Musk, Trump has now seen how rich people live.

[–] painfulasterisk1@lemmy.ml 73 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They should ask Vice President Trump if he enjoys working under "President Musk"

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago (2 children)

First Lady Trump*

Let him think the public (rightfully) sees him as Elon's bitch.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Nah, demeaning to women, and I'm not even the type to say that for a lot of things.

Let's make Trump Elon's First Lad.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Is there any way we can encourage this civil war between Trump and Musk

Wait, Trump means "Fart" in British slang

and Musk is how animals smell each other and stuff..

They're both smelly!

[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 20 points 2 days ago

Just keep pointing out the reality, that President Musk is really running the show, while puppet dumpy takes orders.

It's not new. Take a look at all the billionaires telling him what to do. He's not in charge.

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What Trump is too stupid to realize is that this is Musk's presidency. Trump has always been a puppet to money and Elon can just buy him off, like he bought his way into Tesla.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 44 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And Musk os too stupid to realize that Trump cares about the image of holding piwer, not about the power itself. He's very easy to control from the shadows, but Elon can't keep his face out of the public eye.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago

Let's hope his ego doesn't let him realize that

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago
[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 124 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Lol it's so easy to manipulate Trump into turning on people.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 71 points 3 days ago

It's lucky that Elon is the president and not Trump.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I think it was an YUGE step for Trump to admit he can’t do the job on his own. And, to let Rupert Murdoch and Vladmir make him let Elon have control could not have been easy. So kudos Don, for admitting you’re just not smart enough and needed help.

The greatest South African inserted Immigrant President of all time.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That fuckin dunce is never going to be smart enough to admit fault in anything. Dude could shit his pants and blame someone else in the room the next day, no problem.

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[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 78 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Unsurprisingly, this also works on Trump supporters. They get furious when you even go so far as accidentally and unintentionally imply that Musk's opinion will influence Trump's actions.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

Wait until JD Vance remove Trump using 25th amendment see how that blows their minds.

[–] dyathinkhesaurus@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago

"We didn't vote for Felon. Wait, ok, not that Felon"

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 69 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

8 years ago I'd have thought "Elon will step out of the limelight to avoid upsetting Trump so he can use his White House access to make a ton of money." Now, I know he's just as narcissistic and stupid as Donald Trump is.

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Something in him changed. Broke. Maybe all the drugs fucked him up. Idk. I used to look up to him. In the last say decade, I’ve condemned him. I’d love to see him flogged in public.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I can't even be excited for the awesome things some of his compaines are doing. The engineers ar Space X are doing amazing work but all I think about when I see it is Musk.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 7 points 3 days ago

His origin story is that he bullied a kid so much for dead parents in his school that the kid eventually pushed Elon down the stairs and he swore to never be able to be picked on again.

He's always been a villain he was just charismatic enough and pretended to be the good guy until the mask broke and he went full villain to try and put the mask back up.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 42 points 3 days ago

If it's this easy to manipulate trump, just imagine how easy it is for Russia.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

He can’t do fuck all, Musk was elected president. Trump can smoke a fat dick.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago (2 children)

“So I guess it goes from Putin to Musk to trump to the cleaner’s… right, Kent?”

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Hot damn I get this reference and love that movie!

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

so...we can just pit the vipers against each other until they bite each other to death?

[–] jrs100000@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago

Too bad instead of getting to watch from the sidelines safely, we are stuck in the arena with them.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

The hyaenas will be at each others' throats constantly. That will be the one defining feature of the next Trump administration.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 14 points 3 days ago (3 children)

This specific tension happened a lot sooner than I expected.

Let's see... a guy famous for (among other things) owning a company that builds electric cars teams up with the guy who said he wants to outlaw electric cars. Fireworks were inevitable at some point.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think EVs are the key issue here. The key issue are the grotesquely overinflated egos they both have. It's basically impossible for them to accept anyone as equal.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

It's called narcissism and they are both textbook examples of it.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 9 points 3 days ago

No it's a guy who wants to be king vs a guy who wants to hold the whip but both view themselves as heroes and the greatest gift to humanity.

One thinks his personality is what won him over and will keep all the support of his followers and one thinks he's the smartest person in the room and his correctness will show that he deserves all his followers.

It's cult leader narcissist vs cult leader narcissist. They don't even have to get to policy before the breakdown occurs.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

Tesla produces primarily stock market manipulation schemes, cars secondly...

The value isn't tied to the cars they produce now, so it doesn't matter how many cars they actually sell.

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[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Nothing in this article supports the headline directly. The last paragraph is.
"There’s no telling just yet how much of a rift this has caused between the two men, as Musk seems to be a long-term fixture in Trump’s inner circle. But if this kind of public one-upping continues, who knows how long this bromance will last."

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Ohh and the egos on both of them. This is going to be like working on a marvel movie.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 40 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have also done a lot of drugs and made this face.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

"I'm in fucken space rn, I wonder if anyone can tell I can't feel my lips"

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[–] Kiwi_fella@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Fight! Fight! Fight! (grabs popcorn and a few beers).

[–] Someguy89@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago

Lmfao. Good!

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 30 points 3 days ago

Trump ought to get congress to pass the spending bill just to show Musk who's boss.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

This has been obvious from day 1 of the Trump and Musk show. Trump is an ego maniac and does not like other people taking the lime light.

Trump is predictable in that sense but then highly unpredictable as he turns to his next round of courtiers and sycophants.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Oh, they are not getting along. Is it time to pacify the populace with some WWE drama!?

Who is the heel Muskrat or Aotus? Maybe they will take turns, won't that be entertaining!

[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

We need people at every Trump event holding up giant signs that say “We ❤️ President Musk!” Line the streets leading to Mar-a-Lago with these signs!

Then rinse and repeat for every other shitheel that’s aligned with the Orange One.

[–] InstructionsNotClear@midwest.social 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I hope president Musk can keep his hired goon under control.

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[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Keep saying it over and over.

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