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[–] MumboJumbo@lemmy.world 118 points 1 week ago (15 children)

I think those short bed trucks are the absolute worst. If you genuinely need a truck, get one with a proper bed so you can use it for it's utilitarian purpose. If you've got a short ass bed, you don't need a truck.

[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 67 points 1 week ago (3 children)

People who buy these things don't really want "a truck"

They want a vehicle which aesthetically resembles a truck, so their super manly male man ego can be satisfied, but which is actually just an SUV with extra steps.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Short beds and unibody designs are the worst fucking things to happen to trucks

If you need a truck - and as a rural tradesperson, there are plenty of good reasons to need one - get something that'll actually do the job.

[–] VerPoilu@sopuli.xyz 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Rural tradepeople in Europe rarely have trucks. Vans do the job in the vast majority of cases, a trailer can complement when needed.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not to mention a van has the benefit of keeping the load dry

Which depending on what you do and where can be very important

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

They also keep dirt and road dust off your tools and materials. Vans also conceal your cargo better than a bed which can prevent theft. Most vans are more fuel efficient than similar sized trucks. Vans are usually easier to drive and have better visibility. A big enough van can fit a small workshop in the back, that you can stand in and assemble parts.

Vans are the better work/trade vehicles compared to trucks for most applications and that is a hill I will die on.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yea, I want 90s single cab s10 like I had in college. Full bed, no electronic bullshit. normal size tires, didn't have to climb into it. Everything I needed to haul lumber and tools around and nothing I didn't. I could take the entire thing apart and put it back together. If someone would just make a truck like that again I'd be so happy.

[–] MumboJumbo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I would love an electric version of that. Just an in town daily driver, capable of hauling lumber, projects, etc…

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[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They don't make hardly any 8' beds on mid sized pickups. Pretty much everything is 5.5' which makes a trailer a requirement.

[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I always have to laugh when I see a pickup with a trailer. The empty bed is always a nice extra touch. Like imagine paying an absolute shit ton on an expensive ass truck that eats gass like there's no tomorrow, just to end up using a trailer anyways!

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Want to see something strange but interesting, check out the Telos Truck. Can fit an 8 foot by 4ft piece of plywood in the back, has 4 doors, and is the length of a mini Cooper lol. The look is strange, but at least it shows companies trying to shake up what people think of as utility

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

If I need a truck I’ll rent one from U-Haul. They’re not that expensive.

Owning a truck? That’s pretty expensive for someone like me who just needs a small car to get around. Also avoids that problem.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Renting them from Home Depot is also pretty cheap

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I find if I'm going far distances, home Depot is actually better. Around town U-Haul is usually better.

Which is kinda ironic, as it's inverse to what they advertise for.

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[–] Potatisen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Yeah, but you know what your problem is? You're way too reasonable!

[–] superkret@feddit.org 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't want to scratch the paint in the bed!

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In this case their cargo that they claim they constantly need a truck for, doesn't even fit in the bed because the bed is half the size a bed should be.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

One of the main reasons I probably won't buy a truck. Most beds are only 5 feet in the Tacoma world. My van has more storage space.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It’s partially the manufacturers’ fault. Good luck finding an 8’ bed without an extended cab.

That’s their only option if they’re limited to the footprint of a smaller truck in their parking spot.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm dying for a return to 80s style trucks but with hybrid/electric engines

Please just let me have a functional, strong truck that doesn't cost an arm and a leg to drive

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

and won’t require bags of sand, gravel, or litter in the bed every winter

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[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did you catch that glorious but brief period when Ford and GM were building retro EV’s?

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

To load up deer I shot after a hunt.

Or I would if I hunted. Or had a truck.

Seriously though, farmers and heavy machinery contractors legit need trucks.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone is arguing that people who need a truck shouldn't get a truck. But regular people with trucks is every bit as stupid as driving around in a tractor.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 19 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Nobody who could use a truck uses a truck in Europe. Usually, a Van or something is the better choice. I don't really understand the "american pick-up truck" form factor.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Here in Germany, I see pick-up trucks more and more, and they often have some company logo on them. They never transport anything either, and the only explanation I have is that they're basically a "foreman's car", driven by people who no longer build things but want to feel like they do.

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I recently saw one with the logo of an IT contractor.

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Where I live, hunters use a Lada 4x4 or a Suzuki Jimny.
Farmers use tractors.
Tradesmen use vans.
Heavy machinery contractors use flatbed trucks.

A pickup truck just seems like the worst of all worlds.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I would hate lifting a moose into a modern truck, the bed is 3-4 feet off the ground. I'd sooner put a tarp in a minivan and use that.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'm still seeing a few Fiat Panda 4x4 being used too.

https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/gallery/FIATPanda4X4-2408_3.jpg

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

If you hadn't written what you wrote, I would have been sure that was (amazingly) a Yugo.

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[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Mine is a smaller truck so it also has a little baby bed on the back, but it has allowed me to pickup a load of gravel and mulch. As well as haul garbage to the dump.

But I'm not 10 feet off the ground with huge tires or blinding headlights, and nobody can hear me driving down the road.

Just a little old Nissan to do the occasional dirty work

[–] slingstone@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Nissan hard body pickups were awesome. I had a 96 model, one of the last years they were made. If you're going to own a truck, this would be one of the more responsible ones to own.

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[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

at least he's hauling something unlike 99% of emotional support vehicle owners

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"warlock" LOL i can't believe the shit people look at and say oOoOoOhHhH i want that!

[–] pugsnroses77@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

i feel this way about the ford trucks that have SUPER DUTY banged into the back... embarassing...

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[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago

To haul one gallon of cat litter and a La Croix /s

[–] YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Shoulda bought a bigger truck.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This person has sold me on a bigger truck.

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[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Some warlock indeed, can't even magic his wood in the right hole

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[–] midnight_puker@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I saw a lifted truck the other day, and not only did it not have a trailer hitch, it didn't even have a spot where one could be installed. I don't know much, but it seems to me that if you're not using your pickup truck for hauling, then you shouldn't even have one.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Maybe they haul a bedful of bricks daily but never need to tow anything?

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[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

For all the money bags he has to haul around.

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