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[–] lime@feddit.nu 157 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

imagine if this was about football fans

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The interesting part to me is that you can watch football even when/if you can't play football, but you could be gaming instead of watching.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Nah, I can't game while I'm doing the dishes but I can watch a video just fine

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[–] donuts@lemmy.world 109 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's time for game publishers to think about in-game video as something beyond marketing alone," said Rhys Elliott, games analyst, MIDiA Research. ''By reclaiming video engagement, publishers have the potential to unlock new revenue streams, like advertising, and drive growth.''

[–] wick@lemm.ee 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lmao, what a takeaway. Guy is struggling to earn that paycheck.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

Reminds me of the business plans of the business guys from Ready Player One. "We estimate we can sell up to 80 percent of a user's visual field before inducing seizures." 😂

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 86 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

New report claims people with hobby spend more time watching videos about hobby than doing hobby

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 28 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Watching someone cut a dovetail by hand is a lot more interesting now that I know from experience how hard it is. And maybe I'll learn a trick to make my next ones better.

[–] Mikina@programming.dev 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Dovetail sounds like a bird. It's not a bird, right? Right?

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

A dovetail is a type of joint that doesn't require fasteners and only uses the material (usually glue for wood).

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[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 57 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I stream a 25-year-old MMO, EverQuest, about 8 hours a week and lots of viewers just want to live vicariously through my moment remembering when they were doing it themselves without committing 500-1,000 hours to level a character.

I also watch other people play other class types of endgame content to do the same.

I'm not the most engaging streamer, but I enjoy answering questions to my 2-10 viewers. I also enjoy when another streamer answers my own questions.

I don't understand watching streamers with 4,000 viewers spamming kewk emojis though.

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 47 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

This is not at all surprising. Almost all hobbies and sports are like this.

The only difference that makes this interesting is the fact that you could be gaming while watching about gaming, which is untrue for many other hobbies.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You don't watch football while playing football? What else is the jumbotron even good for?

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[–] eronth@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Makes enough sense, as goofy as it sounds.

  1. No Money. - Videos let me watch games that aren't worth buying to me along with letting me parse games that look fun enough to buy.
  2. No Time. - Videos can be put on during other chores or tasks, left on as background noise during times where I would absolutely not have enough time to actually play a game.
  3. Skill Issue. - No matter how good I want to be, I'm ultimately just kinda ok at games. Watching higher level players can be a way for me to learn tips and tricks to improve, or they can be a way for me to experience difficulty levels of the game I will never realistically achieve on my own.
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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

In other stunning news, researchers find people who like sports spend more time watching it than playing it.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Wouldn't be me. I don't like streams. When I've had twitch drops i wanted to claim I'd just mute the tab in the background to get the time limit needed.

I don't have the attention span for streamers. It's like golf. Might be fun to play but watching is another matter.

[–] Draghetta@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

This, how people can find watching more entertaining than playing is beyond me. I tried watching people play my favourite games on twitch to see what it was like, I got bored out of my brains in minutes.

The closest I can do is watching gameplay videos on youtube, from people who do extremely creative things that inspire me for future playthroughs - but even then.

To y’all watching streams: I’m not judging you, you do you. I just don’t understand you.

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Well, for example; I like to watch LeagueOfLegends streams but don’t like to play it anymore.

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[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Where's "New report claims sports fans spend more time watching sport / videos about sport than playing sport".

This isn't some new, crazy, hard to understand concept.

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[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Makes sense. I usually just put on a 2+ hours long video whenever I'm doing chores. I don't actually care about Wolfey's last weird team, it just makes for good background noise.

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[–] MacAttak8@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Definitely fall into this category. Commentary/ video essays about games are my go-to for background noise.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

people want to play with friends, and with gaming getting lonelier, i think people are seeking the parasocial relationships on streaming sites.

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[–] RinseDrizzle@midwest.social 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This thread got me thinking Lemmy needs a better "find a co-op buddy" community for games in general. If it's here already, could use better marketing.

Not sum'm I suffer from, but I want to see y'all living your best lives too. A good homie can make or break a game run.

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[–] youreinthedrizzle@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's me for sure these days. Back in high school I used to play at least a couple of hours every day. I have a gaming PC and a Steam Deck but probably play a few hours a month. But I'll happily watch several hours of Twitch each day while I'm relaxing.

Probably just getting older and busier, haha.

[–] Redredme@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As a (probably) even older guy I find it the weirdest thing ever. "watching games being played". It's boring AF.

Sure, I can't t play counterstrike effectively anymore. Sure I am the one with the most deaths in helldivers2. Doom eternal is just way too twitchy for me. I've become too slow. In mechwarrior 5 I have too put the difficulty on story/easy and aim assist on. Which hurt my old ego the most to be honest.

But doing it still beats the shit out of watching it.

/start_old_man_rant

Especially these days when every streamer is an egocentric manchilds screaming their head off in a totally scripted "episode". Or girls in bikinis only because it sells. Can we just leave that in hooters? And everything is bought and paid for. You're watching a commercial. Or do you really think that logo on his mike just happens to be in view? Or the brand of the gaming chair?or that cupboard behind him filled with lights and gaming gear? Its ultra consumerism. And the begging for money. Fuck off. Really.

I hate it.

I miss total biscuit. That was entertainment.

/end_old_man_rant

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[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 15 points 2 weeks ago

Sometimes you are so tired that you can’t actively engage in something, but you want to engage with it so you passively engage instead.

This goes for gamers watching gaming videos, woodworkers watching woodworking videos or people with dirty houses watching lawnmowing/pressure washing/car detailing/rug cleaning videos.

You get some of the endorphins of achievement, without having to go through the effort of achieving something.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 14 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Plenty of people have a twitch stream open whilst playing a game.

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[–] Gurei@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah cause I'm too busy to game frequently, but I can watch something while being productive.

[–] biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone 14 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I watch games about the game in gaming, but I also watch games about my game when I'm not gaming. Therefore by definition my gaming will be less than my watching gaming.

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[–] RealFunAtParties@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I would say this isn't me, but I started playing Dwarf Fortress lately and have probably been watching an hour of tutorials for every 30 minutes I play at this point. 😅

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[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean they are counting e-sports? Because is the same shit as watching soccer but better, vast majority of soccer fans doesn't play it regularly.

7.4 hours a week gaming

Those are rookie numbers

[–] huginn@feddit.it 8 points 2 weeks ago

The long weekend from Thanksgiving gave me unprecedented access to factorio space age. I think I hit 60 hours last week.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

All of my little cousins and nephews watch streamers. To them it's more fun to watch someone play than to play most times. They don't like dealing with challenging games all the time, they really just want to have fun. These kids do play games but they watch more than me so I tried watching some streamers and I get it. When I was growing up we had systems with multiple controller ports and no online. Online gaming was PC only until I went to college and console online took off. But growing up you had to bring your friends or cousins to play some Mario Kart 64. That was way different than playing with randoms online. Streamers kinda brings that connection back.

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[–] LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I am absolutely trash with the elden ring series but I love everything about it. I watch people play and enjoy it. I'm sure 20 years ago I'd have been all in on them but my game difficulty is set to easy these days.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Never really understood watching it when playing is also very little effort. It's not football.

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

for me it's mostly because I am too depressed and unmotivated to get out of bed and go sit in front of the console/PC but not depressed enough to put the dumb addictive black rectangle down

(i am taking medication i hope this changes)

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[–] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I'm definitely one of those people, but I work in an office where they let us watch shit on our phones as long as the work still gets done. A hell of a lot easier to watch YT videos than to try to sneak an Xbox S into a cubicle farm ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Well...

  1. "Videos about gaming" don't necessarily have to be gameplay footage. Reviews, promotional materials, discussions etc. count. Maybe even stuff like Viva La Dirt League's content which is live action skits about video games.

  2. Tutorials and walkthroughs exist.

  3. Some vintage systems are difficult to get up and running or even find. For a lot of people it's easier to just watch an enthusiast do it on youtube.

  4. Especially on Twitch with streamers it's as much about the player as it is the game.

  5. Especially with esports or speedrunning it's like watching a sporting event. Even if you like playing football too there's something to watching the professionals play at the top echelons.

  6. One can watch gaming videos while doing other things. When I was moving into my apartment in Greensboro I assembled my furniture while watching HCBailly play through the Gameboy Zelda games.

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Those aren’t gamers in the same way watching racing doesn’t make me a race car driver.

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[–] SARGE@startrek.website 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Absolutely can't stand watching people play video games. They play wrong.

And the only videos I watch of a game are ones to see what kind of game it is when I don't know too much beyond word of mouth "this game is great" kind of thing. Sure, you've described the game as an action-packed romp with tons of weapons and semi-open world, but the video shows it's a 2d side scroller with variations of the same 5 pixel "guns" that all shoot the same ball. Not interested.

Beyond that, I have no interest in watching videos. And if companies started trying to somehow cram even more ads into their games to advertise to people watching a stream then I'm even less in than before

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[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

I’ve spent boatloads more time watching football than playing football, too.

Also, with Rainbow 6: Siege, there’s so many ways to play the game that I love watching videos to get ideas for new strategies to try.

Lastly, contrary to popular belief, a lot of games actually require thinking about what you’re doing. Time spent playing is not really time spent spacing out so I will happily watch videos about a game I like to play when I don’t have the energy to actually focus on playing them.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm always "why am I wasting time watching this when I could be playing a cool game?"

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

because i'm at work. or tired as fuck at the end of a long day.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 8 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

This makes me feel kind of alienated.

I don't think I've ever watched someone playing games intentionally, outside of like "how do you do this part?" guides, and maybe a couple hours spectating in games total.

Ok, and a handful of like "let me solo her" highlights that made it to me. But I never like seek it out.

I'm principal Skinner, I guess.

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[–] Eyedust@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

You don't really know it until you stop watching videos for like a week. Suddenly you want to do your favorite things again; try things yourself again.

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