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Summary

“He wants to be seen as having say in everything (even if he doesn’t),” one person in Trump’s orbit said.

Elon Musk’s growing influence in Donald Trump’s orbit is reportedly irritating members of the former president’s inner circle.

Since his efforts helped secure Trump’s reelection, Musk has been highly visible at Mar-a-Lago, taking credit for Trump’s victory and acting as if he’s a “co-president.”

Musk has joined key diplomatic calls and even attempted to broker peace with Iran.

Despite his appointment to lead the Department of Government Efficiency, some close to Trump feel Musk’s overreach and need for attention may jeopardize his position, as Trump dislikes sharing the spotlight.

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[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Good let them eat each other.

[–] Kite@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago

Even ignoring the fact that he's a billionaire and that's what got him where he is, Musk's personality seems to be such that he is innately annoying as fuck. He'll always have yes-men around him because of his money, but I do wonder just how long everyone else in his current political circle are going to tolerate him. I'm hoping he'll be his own annoying downfall.

[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Elon Musk Is Pissing Off Everyone

ftfy

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Let them beat each other to pulp even before January, and it won't be a loss.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I had predicted this a while back, in that enabling Trump meant victory for the GOP, but the total erosion of Conservative values. This is clear in that any career politician will likely cede power to a bunch of nutjobs or meme lords with money.

They can either shut up and let Trump do his thing (lol), or they can dig their heels in and fight his decisions from within, grinding government to a halt (also lol). Either way, it's a win for most, because in the long term the right will bail after Trump and leave a party so weak that it probably won't be able to fight off the memory of Trump. He'll never endorse a candidate that's not himself, especially if the GOP blocks him. His rabid fan base will either die out, or go third-party because the GOP is "too woke" or something.

[–] a9cx34udP4ZZ0@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

because in the long term the right will bail after Trump and leave a party so weak that it probably won’t be able to fight off the memory of Trump

Look at this optimist still assuming there's going to be another election and that a republican party actually matters. The supreme court has already ruled he can't be held liable for anything he does while president if it's an "official act" - if you think he won't try "officially" ending the public choosing the next president, you might be in for a rude awakening.

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Conservative values

I don't think the dollar values in their accounts have eroded. Or where you meaning something else?

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of people favour less government intervention, fiscal responsibility, stronger laws, and strength in the free market. IMO at a base level this isn't an inherently evil thing to believe/want.

Obviously, most politicians don't represent this, but for those that do they find the current party doesn't represent them. Eight years of Trump is probably enough to destroy many careers.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago

IMO at a base level this isn't an inherently evil thing to believe/want.

Not evil, but misguided. All of these things are euphemisms for destroying (or not having in the first place) social safety nets, letting deregulated corporations run amok and replacing the rule of law with the rule of the richest. And most people who say they want these euphemisms don't understand that, otherwise they wouldn't want them. Because the consequences are objectively bad for at least 90% of people in any given country.

Btw, none of these things you mention are "conservative values".

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Trumps administration will likely start out with a lot of power hungry egomaniac freaks, and then with its very high turnover, trump loyalists will be filtered through, like they did in their first term.

Competence doesn't really matter.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I really hope they throw him under the bus, and then later they can fire him and blame him for anything that goes wrong.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I hope he causes havoc until that instant.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago

If he runs the US Government anything like he runs Tesla and Twitter, yeah that's on brand.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Hoping this results in real negative consequences for once in musk's life.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

I hope he pisses them off so much Trump strips him of his wealth... then maybe other rich people would see why this future is going to suck.

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

Chance of him learning for said negative experience: 0%

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Hey, yeah. Trump is a vindictive shit against people he perceives as disloyal. Watch what happens to Mike Pence after the inauguration to see a preview of how badly Republicans are going to eat their own. Hopefully very badly.

[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago

Something, something, night of the long knives

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 28 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Trump has promised a cabinet position to every insufferable asshole in the country who insists that everyone accept their own fringe views and talks over anyone who disagrees, while also knowing nothing about what they're talking about. This is gonna be funny to watch, but painful to experience.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 26 points 21 hours ago

The only good part of the Trump regime will be watching them infight as we all go up in flames.

[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 25 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

A less endearing Dwight Schrute

[–] Chekhovs_Gun@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago

Assistant to the regional dictator

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 15 hours ago

For a second I thought you meant Dwight from DBD and I just imagined Elon Musk getting chased around The Fog by Ghosface and Dracula.

[–] bender223@lemmy.today 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

He's a genius billionaire, so we should always listen to what he says, no matter how stupid it is.

/s

[–] auzy@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago

Yeah. Like that shitty sub he built

At least unlike the cave divers, when he calls people in Trump's team a pedo this time when they ignore him, he might actually be right

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wouldn't it be awesome if they had a big punch-up?

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago

It would be nice if their future punchups doesn't include us as potential collateral :')

[–] mynameisigglepiggle@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

It would be like some old celebrity and someone heavily involved in social media going at it

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 90 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Musk has joined key diplomatic calls and even attempted to broker peace with Iran.

That's a pretty clear violation of the Logan Act. Gettin' blue from holding my breath over here.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Historically the Logan act has been interpreted to not include the Presiden-Elect and their incoming administration.

If the things mentioned this is the most "normal".

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Is it possible to be part of an administration if you've only been named as part of a department that doesn't exist?

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 3 points 12 hours ago

That specific precedent likely doesn't exist as most new cabinet level positions aren't created by President Elects.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm sure Gutless Garland will get right on it.

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[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump should just shit his pants every time Elon shows up.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 20 points 23 hours ago

What makes you think he doesn't?

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 13 points 1 day ago

Sucks to be them.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

I'm looking forward to 4 years of great and annoying articles like this

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

Didn't see this coming from about 136 miles away. Oh no...

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Why is his simile upside down

[–] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

It reflects his miserable persona.

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