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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 125 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I'll wait to see who gets arrested before believing a leftist burned ballots.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 77 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Anyone remember Umbrella Man from the 2020 Minneapolis riots? He was smashing windows and trying to frame BLM protesters when in fact he was a right wing nut job.

Wasn't the only case if I recall of that year.

Boogaloo boys tried to do something similar in framing nearby protesters over George Floyd when they shot up a Federal courthouse, killing a security guard.

Investigations into the 2020 protests found that the vast majority of protests were peaceful and a majority of the violence was instigated by counter-protesters.

[–] FunnyUsername@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

"Counter-protesting" things like george floyd always blows my mind. It's like booing if someone tells you they beat cancer.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

There was this too:

Among multiple problems was the fact that the idiot thought "I'll be the one to finally make an 'anarchy' symbol with the proper attention to detail!" Another one was - who the hell has ever been enthusiastic enough about a Biden presidency to decide they needed to express it with a can of paint on someone else's property?

It really was immediately apparent, it was just a matter of waiting for the inevitable confirmation.

I get a similar vibe here. It really doesn't make sense as a crime that group would be motivated to commit.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Anarchists famously love Democrats enough to incorporate them into their graffiti

[–] terraborra@lemmy.nz 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah this might be the one legitimate time to yell “false flag”.

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

I agree. While I've seen some crazy shit, it's not hard for the GOP to plant shit while committing felonies.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago

False flag is rarely the correct answer. Not never, but definitely rare. It's usually a knee-jerk by the party embarrassed by some action.

Keep an open mind.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The police are thinking that too.

Investigators are trying to determine if the perpetrator was actually a pro-Palestinian activist or someone using that prominent cause to sow discord, one of the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the investigation was ongoing.

In either case, the actions of one person don't prove much about the larger movement that he intends to support.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

The preparator has also left a note reading "wasn't me!" /s

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah I would guess MAGA but a leftist, rightist or anything-ist can be stupid and do stupid things.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's funny - it could be a GOP fascist with a false flag, or it could be a legitimately stupid accelerationist fuck.

Almost like there's very little difference between the two.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

Almost like if you radicalize people they could go in any direction. Blame still lies with the oppressors. Always remember that. Hold your fellow citizens accountable but do not allow all the blame to fall to them.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If I were setting ballot box fires, I'd probably want to do something to lead investigators off the scent.

Like maybe claim a different entity was doing it for different reasons.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 weeks ago

Hmm, you mean how like January 6th was "actually all antifa."

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think I've seen anyone say "free Gaza". Anyone who cares says "free Palestine".

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

If you bother to read the article, you’ll find one of the devices did say “free Palestine.”

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They drive a Volvo.

It's going to be a white dude aged 30-45 with a military background and numerous traffic violations whos been recently divorced.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Neighbor: "He's pretty quiet. Keeps to himself."

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Crazy that ballot boxes need a fire suppression system now.

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What a weird timeline

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Don't care who did it or why. Lock 'em up!

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

You da real MVP

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

False flag?

[–] Kethal@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Why are they being coy and calling whatever they found "devices" instead of using a meaningful word?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 10 points 2 weeks ago

Because cops love doing this sort of shit.

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

de·vice

noun

a thing made or adapted for a particular purpose, especially a piece of mechanical or electronic equipment.

Sounds like the correct word to me. You don't just walk into the store and buy an IED.

One of the law enforcement officials with knowledge of the markings said that all three devices were sent to the terrorist explosive device analytical center in Huntsville, Ala.

[–] multi_regime_enjoyer@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

What is this?