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[–] lol_idk@lemmy.ml 5 points 27 minutes ago

It's a for profit business, running off of donations, employing people with disabilities so they can abuse them. Not surprised

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 22 minutes ago

Goodwill is built on under paying it's labor. They take advantage of laws that allow them to pay disabled people whatever they want. The laws were meant to help provide labor, get disabled people back into a productive life, and provide some extra income so they weren't completely reliant on Social Security.

That sounds noble right? Well Goodwill has been caught paying people less than a dollar an hour. And as you see here, they aren't giving discounts to the people who have to shop at a thrift store either.

They're walking away with a massive upwards redistribution of wealth from the lower classes to the upper classes. Also I expect someone will be along soon to yell at me, (a disabled person), about the dignity of work and how no one else is providing it. Also in this picture, the meat packing industry which has been caught using mentally disabled people for less than minimum pay in dangerous conditions.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 42 minutes ago
[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 points 2 hours ago

Frequent thrift shopper, I've noticed prices going so high I wonder if they know what "thrift store" means anymore.

[–] donescobar@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

The “good” will in the name stands for the “blue” in the garment

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 20 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They are a for-profit company built around taking advantage of poor people.

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 hours ago

all companies take advantage of poor people, the poors are terrible at making long term decisions because they don't have enough capital to afford them.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Almost everything in the Goodwill in Rochester, MN is brand new.

Weird as fuck. And we're not talking just things like brand new clothes, we're also talking about things like HDMI cables still in the packaging or clearly unused garden ornaments.

[–] MichaelHawkinSnider@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

ROCHESTER, MN, MENTIONED RAHHH 🐺🐺🐺🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 WHAT THE FUCK IS BAD HEALTHCARE ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🐺🐺🇺🇸🇺🇸🐺🇺🇸🇺🇸

My wife and I love thrifting in Rochester for that reason, especially with MN's tax-free clothing.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 37 points 9 hours ago

Goodwill has started doing regional pricing. They will actually sort high value items out of donations and send them to higher income areas to target middle class "thrifters" who are not as price sensitive. These stores are basically like TJ Maxx in terms of pricing.

[–] Jerkingass@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The coat is clearly BLACK. The tag says BLUE.

[–] bonn2@lemm.ee 10 points 7 hours ago

Forgive me if I didn't detect the sarcasm. But the color is goodwills discount system. On any given day the red tags might be discounted, or the blue. It is a way to clear out stuff more consistently.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Reselling took off in the past few years and everyone thought they could get in on it. Goodwill realized that they were leaving money on the table and started jacking up prices and opened their own online auction site for the better stuff.

Dumdums who think they want to get into reselling keep buying junk for high prices there and then can't handle the reselling game.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 26 points 10 hours ago

My mom still goes there but only picks things up when it's the right "color" if the day, for the 50% off. The fact that she won't get things that aren't in sale at a thrift store should be enough evidence to know it's not really thrifty.

[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 29 points 11 hours ago

~~Good~~ Corprate Will

[–] MiltownClowns@lemmy.world 60 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I worked at Goodwill sorting donations 20 years ago. This is nothing new. They price according to what they think they can get for it. And if we got in designer stuff that we thought we could make money off of, there was a Goodwill website we sold it on. This is the way it's always been.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

I worked in goodwill industries last year. They were paying disabled people subminimum, their regular people $11/hr and Todd Schrieber $200k with a $50k bonus.

[–] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

They’re also upfront about it: Goodwill exists to give (mainly disabled) people jobs, not to sell things as cheap as possible

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago

Don't make me laugh. They get their product donated, they get their labor at subminimum, and they sell at market price. That's not a non profit that exists to help the people working there. It's exploiting them and extracting money from them and the shoppers who are deceived into thinking it's a thrift store.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 43 points 11 hours ago

Only because they legally pay them less then minimum wage.

[–] Baaahb@feddit.nl 21 points 10 hours ago

Goodwill exists to make rich people richer. The disabled people they "exist to give jobs too" are super exploited.

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Then why does anyone donate shit to Goodwill. I thought they purposely sold things cheap so that people that needed it could afford it.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

That's been their marketing for decades. It's been coming unraveled recently though. There are actual thrift shops that charge enough to keep the doors open and do their other projects. There's also homeless and near homeless donation places that will take your stuff in and use it to furnish a place given to a homeless person.

Really we should have all been very sus of a "thrift store" with Goodwill's marketing budget.

[–] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

This is a common misconception with "charity shops" in the UK and "opportunity (op) shops" in Australia.

The assumption is that the charity/opportunity is for people doing it tough to be able to buy cheap clothes and home goods.

But the "charity" is because many shops like this are partner retailers of larger charity organisations, eg: the "profit" from Salvos stores helps indirectly fund Salvation Army Housing and food relief programs.

The opportunity comes from who they hire, if you're disabled or elderly, these shops are more likely to hire you than other retail providers.

But of course, a large number of charity and op shops abuse their staff as much as Amazon and Walmart do. Wage theft and unethical labour practices galore

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 92 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

this is actually A Thing according to my dedicated thrifter wife

They realized they can make more money by pricing what professional resellers would charge, and have starting sloughing off more high end stuff to sell online, and adjusting pricing to be inline with the rest of the 2nd hand fashion reselling market.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 61 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

Yeah, everyone has a phone now, including goodwill employees. They aren't going to put a Northface coat out for $12.99 when it goes for $129 online used.

Our local thrift stores price according to the real world too, and generally, I bet $35 is still a deal for this coat. Its just not the $3.50 that people want to see.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago

You mean it's not the 3.50 that the working mom of 3 needs it to be in order to buy it.

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 17 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I went to a Savers (local thrift store chain) about a month ago and they had a boxed Wii console in the glass case. It was used, not sealed, and they wanted $350 for it. I asked the guy if that was a mistake and he told me it was indeed the listed price. "I know for a fact this will never sell at this price because it's been here for over a year."

Some of these employees are just putting crazy prices.

[–] tektite@slrpnk.net 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Savers is the same as Value Village and it's a for-profit company that exists in three different countries. They're not much better than Goodwill, if at all.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

100% also happening. I bet they found a boxed Wii online listed for $350 and did not check the "sold" prices.

Then again, "vintage" gaming is having a revival right now, so it's fully possible it sold for $350 online, but the local customers aren't the same as the global customers.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

I found dollarama products listed for $5+ at the local goodwill. Let's not just make the blanket assumption that exploited goodwill workers are professional appraisers and that the customer is the problem.

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[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 31 points 13 hours ago

I stopped going to goodwill a while ago.

Prices too high.

Also Caught them a few times taking the sale of the week items to the back storage so no one can get the $1 blue tags or whatever color of the week it was.

Also heard the manager yelling at an employee for missing one of the sale items.

I still go to all the other brands of thrift stores, there are like 30 of them in 10 miles, maybe more. And they are ALL cheaper than goodwill.

I also used to go to goodwill outlets and get stuff cheap by weight, but I no longer see hard goods or DVDs there anymore. So I stopped going.

[–] Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

Idk if that's out of control or not anymore, what's a dollar worth? But I've avoided goodwill for Habitat for a while because there were various stories over the years about shady things. Now, they're big and basically all franchises so some of this was always gonna happen; lawsuits w/ racist/sexist/otherwise discriminatory managers will eventually happen once a company gets large enough, and franchises have a lot of independent control which leads to a lot of variance, good and bad, at different locations.

But they're also pretty shit at the corporate level: https://www.cracked.com/article_33357_15-impressively-evil-things-goodwill-has-done.html

So overall, on the astronomically low bar of regular evil corporate behavior, they're middling, but you should probably donate/shop elsewhere if you want to do the most good.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Charging as much as they can get is very consistent with their mission. It’s not their mission to provide a low-cost store where poor people can buy things. It’s to create jobs. The people working at Goodwill are what the entire thing is about. And if they make more money they can add more jobs. It’s not a goal to have low prices.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

No providing products to the working class was very much part of their mission. It obviously isn't anymore.

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Charging as much as they can get is very consistent with their mission. It’s not their mission to provide a low-cost store where poor people can buy things. It’s to create jobs. The people working at Goodwill are what the entire thing is about. And if they make more money they can add more jobs. It’s not a goal to have low prices.

They don't add jobs for shit. Half the staff is there on court order and the rest are underpaid as fuck. Fuck goodwill

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds a little harsh for what they do. So these jobs are not competitive or we could even say they are lousy. But the people getting them would otherwise be in jail or otherwise unemployable. Organizations like this are a half step toward normal life for a lot of people coming from a dark place. It’s not a place to make a career.

It’s also based on religious kookiness which I always think is a bad foundation for any organization.

But I’m not going to say “Fuck Goodwill.” I swear there are people on the internet who think literally everything is borderline slavery.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

There's a thousand retail and fast food establishments out there dying for labor right now. There's no need to use Goodwill as a halfway house. They aren't teaching skills. They just give them a job and pay them less than minimum wage. If this was a job training program then there would be a point. But there isn't.

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