I'll just leave this here.
this post was submitted on 18 Oct 2024
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Break up big tech. Regulate monopolies before the cause the second great depression.
That's right about when I would start slacking off real hard.
Time to set up effigies on gibbets for totally peaceful protest purposes.
"Days of love"
"Please leave! If we fire you, we have to pay unemployment, but your replacements will be younger (less costly health problems) and will accept less pay. It's win-win-win for us if you leave of your own accord!"
I know two senior programmers at Amazon who found new jobs rather than RTO. Within 24 hours after they left they got emails from recruitment identifying them as “boomerang candidates”, offered them a decent raise, and offered full time remote work.
This is nothing more than getting people to quit and hiring back key personnel lost in the process.
I've heard that this is the new type of layoffs big tech is doing. Massive layoffs that are required lower the stock price but people quitting is not news. So the best strategy to get rid of staff is to create a hostile work environment temporarily until you reach the right amount.
This is a really bad idea for long term health of a company. The people that stay are the ones that will struggle to find new jobs and the people that leave probably already have another job at a competing firm lined up.
It's just straight up dumb but keeps the stock price high and the CEO gets his bonus.
Any manager high up enough to be talking on a news channel doesn’t have the degree of interaction with workers to know what they think.
Source: every job I’ve ever had
As if they care what the plebes think.
Well... uhhh... that was Amazon's plan. I thought we were on the same page.
They will do whatever they can get away with.
Melian Dialogue: "the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must"
this is why collective action with 21st century employment is important. all of them could sit down. but they won't because of humans constantly failing the prisoner's dilemma.
This was always the intention.
As an Amazon employee...the man blatantly lied about the figures for those happy to RTO. He probably got them by seeing that ~10% of corporate staff are in the remote advocacy channel, and assumed that everyone else was...happy?
Regardless, Amazon is known as a place that values data above anything else. If you are a fresh grad PM and you're caught fudging or misrepresenting numbers to suit a narrative, guess what happens to you. You are more than likely PIP'd or fired
I'd say that Matt Garman should be fired for lying about the data, but given that Jassy has a habit of lying about figures also, the rot is at the top.
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Well yeah, driving people to quit to save money on severance from the impending layoffs is the whole point of forcing them to return to the office
You don't like the anal probe? Just leave!!
(*without any additional pay or severance)
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Oh, permission to leave the plantation, thank you boss sir.
Same old slave owner personalities.
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So in this instance would quiet quitting lead to the desired result? Just doing the most subpar work until they’re forced to fire you with a severance…
Yes. Malicious compliance.
Would continue to work from home until they fire me.
Would continue to sit in office applying for other jobs until they fire me.
amazon unhappy with happier employees can leave too
Paging Tyler durden on this mf
Why is even the writer of the article lying about the reason? Everyone knows this is about real estate value propping up the stock price.
Why would Amazon give a shit if real estate values go down? Amazon isn't a real estate company.
Are you actually interested in the answer to that or just running in here to argue? I figure it'll save me effort if you tell me before I answer.
Umm...good question. I think I came in here expecting to see some braindead takes and prepared to argue against them, but tell you what, I promise I'll be respectful and attentive in this thread. You sound like you might actually have a good answer to my question.
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