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[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

It wasn't a masterclass. It was functional. What she did masterfully was bait Mangolini into showing how incoherent he really is.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 188 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it's so funny how for weeks everyone telegraphed "she's gonna bait him" and her team was like "we're gonna bait him" and he managed to act normal for like 3 minutes and then she said one thing about his rallies and it was like feeding a gremlin after midnight

[–] Thehalfjew@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Look, I know this is a late response and all but this is serious: it's feeding a mogwai after midnight that turns it into a gremlin. Gremlin feeding times have no impact on their behavior.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 119 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Nope.

Trump fans don't care.
Harris fans saw confirmation.
Disinterested voters didn't watch.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Disinterested voters didn’t watch.

It was a highly entertaining debate. Plenty of folks who dislike them both showed up with big bowls of popcorn to root for injuries. And Trump was true to form, just stepping into rake after rake for the full 90 minutes.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I came to count how many times Trump says "millions and millions"

[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago

Thing is Trump made his most ridiculous statements highly memeable.

"They're eating the dogs!" is gonna live on like "They're turning the fricken frogs gay!"

That might draw enough of the disinterested crowd to figure out what happened that night.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 73 points 1 week ago (2 children)

...and a news media that desperately needs a horse race for clicks will continue to hold Harris to a higher standard than the orange Mr. Magoo.

[–] whereisk@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A convicted rapist literally claimed that you’re allowed to murder babies - then we put them side by side and double check if Harris said something that was slightly exaggerated. What’s so weird about it?

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 27 points 1 week ago

Ajnt Ornj: "~~non white~~ 'illegal immigrants' are literally coming to eat your pets and the democrats want to let them"

Media fact checker: "this may not be entirely true, as no evidence has been produced to support the claims, however we found a Twitter post that... "

Harris: "those polling numbers increased by 18%"

Media fact checker: "This is blatantly false. The number actually increased by 17.86%"

Idiots online: BOTH SIDES LIE THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 27 points 1 week ago

Trump was barely coherent throughout, but you'll see the media clean up his word salad as 'Trump vigorously defended his economic policies and the handling of the pandemic.'

Clips of this will spread through media and word of mouth, though. People who did watch it can tell their friends stories about it. That's why it's good that she did well. It builds cultural momentum.

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[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 90 points 1 week ago (22 children)

People not voting for Harris because of Gaza need to avoid watching the debate, otherwise they’ll change their minds. No matter how bad things are, they can get worse.

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[–] g0nz0li0@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Fox News poll, right after the debate.

Boomertown.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fox is conservative STATE propaganda. No different to Russian or North Korean state propaganda. Regardless of the blatant bias, there is literally nothing stopping them from manufacturing this "poll" out of thin air.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Fox isn’t state media. I dislike the mendacious fuckers as much as the next guy but let’s try and stick to facts.

The US has very few state media organizations. Voice of America is one. Radio Free Europe is another.

Fox is an independent organization, if they were state media the Biden admin would have control of their news. That obviously isn’t the case.

[–] tea@lemmy.today 15 points 1 week ago

I know this is about Fox, but I want to continue to share that neither is NPR. It is an independent nonprofit that operates independently of the government and gets less than 1% of it's operaiting budget from federal sources.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Good news is 8% managed to get their head out of their ass. Who is answering that poll besides hardcore conservatives?

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 44 points 1 week ago

Russian Bots

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

The comment about Haitian immigrants eating cats definitely clenched it for me.

My ass cheeks that is. As I was dying laughing.

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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

It will change a lot.

This will dramatically increase the number of Republicans who will tell everyone they're not voting for him, and then vote for him.

[–] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 39 points 1 week ago (6 children)

A few Republicans I know said they were going to vote libertarian or just not vote after watching the debate so she did pretty fucking well.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

A few Republicans I know said they were going to vote libertarian or just not vote

Very funny that he is straight up Biden-ing himself.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Despite how much they go on about how nuanced and special their views are, libertarians will find a way to vote GOP like they always do.

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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm sure they said that.

I like to lie about things I'm ashamed of too.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"She makes some good points. I might vote for her if she wasn't a Democrat" - Republicans

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

"...or a woman, or not white."

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Some Republican politicians will switch perhaps.

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