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What an absolutely baffling choice to make at the last minute. To think this movie, based on an ultra-violent game that children aren't supposed to play, needs to cut out all the ultra-violence to garner an audience of children that...shouldn't be playing the games. Stupid fucking studio execs.
And I hate the trend of director's cuts lately, but a Roth movie getting neutered down to pg-13 absolutely deserves one.
From what I've heard in reviews, it sounds like the decision to make Tiny Tina a main character drove a lot of the market shift. It sounds like they made her more vulnerable and innocent to contrast with the tired, jaded Lilith instead of the demented bomber that fits into the tone of the game
Tina actually is the most emotionally vulnerable major character in Borderlands 2, as Assault on Dragon Keep shows. However, she's also a deeply disturbed demolitionist who tortures someone to death on-screen.
Trying to turn her into an innocent little girl feels utterly bizarre.
So they completely ignored why she’s the fan favorite character and just have a different personality to her
Unfortunately, money talks. Studios are afraid to spend big money on a film with a "limited" R rated audience. Lower the rating, more bums on seats.
In a world with Deadpool, you'd think they'd learn their lesson. And for one of the most popular gaming franchises around, no less.
It's like that bit in The Simpsons Movie where Lisa tells Homer he has to speed up through the loop to actually make it - if they'd had the nerve, they could've had a major hit. But nope, they're too scared to commit and now it's gonna crash and burn.
Deadpool is looking to hit $1 billion in 3 weeks. They're worried about not making money with an R rated movie. They're out of their minds, back when I was a kid my dad took me and four friends to see Starship Troopers. There are ways to see R rated movies even if you are not old enough. If it isn't rated NC-17 then kids will get in to see it.
Exactly! I often hear that NC-17 is the kiss of death for some films. Apparently, the bigger cinema chains won't even show NC-17 films. (This is all 2nd hand knowledge as I'm obviously not from the US.)
Thank god for R rated films! 😆
Just to add in that Borderlands made 8.8 million it's first weekend. How is some exec board going to blame this on someone below them. I bet that billion dollar box office from D & W is really making them salivate and cry at the same time.
Agree with that's what they think and sometimes it's the case, but man they do not get nuance. This isn't some romcom that shows a bit too much boob, it's a movie based on a video game that literally advertised bazillions of guns. Anyone who knows the franchise wants it to be as nutty and gruesome as possible. Nerfing the movie I think took bums out of seats
That and the casting. Kevin Heart as Roland and Jack Black as Claptrap was enough for me to turn off the trailer. I knew it was going to be bad from the get go.
But they hired the beloved director of The House With A Clock In Its Walls! I'm sure the rest of his filmography is equally approh my god.
God damnit, it's Borderlands, an R rating is almost mandatory
That's like the morons that thought making Alien vs Predator PG-13 was a good idea
So that pretty much confirms what some people were speculating. Reviews mentioned there were a lot of jarring cuts mid-fight that they probably had to cut scenes that were too violent.
Scrolling by without paying much attention, I thought this thumbnail was for a gritty remake of the movie Holes.
Business majors claim another victim.
It was one if the things that struck me, they are using all sorts of weapons to fight off waves of baddies and you don't see as much as a graze. It may go some way to explaining why the fight direction was so poor. Would going R have saved the film? Probably not, but it could definitely have made it semi-watchable. My screening had 4 walkouts, from about 20 people, and I suspect they made the best move.
Release the Roth Cut!!
Eli Roth cut when?
Taken from Wikipedia. I didn't realise the film had been shot so long ago in 2021!
Filming began on April 1, 2021, in Budapest, Hungary, during the COVID-19 pandemic, and wrapped on June 22. On June 4, 2021, first look images of the cast were released, with black and white images obscuring all but the cast's silhouettes.
In January 2023, it was announced the film would be going through two weeks of reshoots directed by Tim Miller, due to Roth's commitments to Thanksgiving (2023).
Zak Olkewicz wrote new pages for Miller. In June 2023, Mazin removed his name from the project, replaced by Joe Crombie; Mazin denied reports that Crombie was his pseudonym. Additional literary material was credited to Berg, Uziel, Taylor, Rettenmaier, Olkewicz, Chris Bremner, and Sam Levinson. Steve Jablonsky composed the film's score after replacing Nathan Barr.
It's always worrying when a film's script is credited to so many people!
Won't be watching it in the theatres after all I guess...