Yeah - I'm calling bullshit at this point.
This isn't reporting - it's just flogging a narrative.
And I say that as someone who argued for Biden dropping out.
this post was submitted on 11 Jul 2024
-25 points (31.9% liked)
politics
19107 readers
2609 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Why?
This is how these things happen. You're viewing it as just political, but for these campaign workers, it's a lot closer.
They didn't just realize Biden was bad. This has been an open an obvious secret for them for a long time. And the dam has finally broken and people are talking
Everytime someone talks, more people feel comfortable talking.
There's no way to stop it once it starts except getting in front of it. The longer Biden waits and the more talk. The more it hurts the party
Trust is eroding and there wasn't much in the party to begin with
If its new/ people keep repeating it, its news-worthy.
If its reposting/ rehashing last weeks news, then it deserves downvotes.
If you are sick of hearing the news, maybe log out, take a break.
But the news is what the news is.
How do you mean? Like, you don't actually think campaign aids said these things?
Not sure what flogging a narrative really means
Flogging a narrative - someone has a vested interest not just in promoting a particular idea or position, but in communicating the idea that there's a broad consensus for that idea or position. That's the "narrative."
For whatever reason (generally simply that that broad consensus doesn't exist), they can't simply report that some significant majority of people support the idea or position. So instead, they publish an anecdotal example of it - this particular person, who's notable for whatever reason, supports it. Then the next day, they publish another. Then another. Then another. Then another.
The goal is simply to repeat the same idea enough times that people who aren't really paying much attention will come to think that it must be a notably popular position, since they keep seeing it mentioned.
I have no doubt that an aide said what 's being reported. And I also have no doubt that a determined enough reporter could come up with pretty much any idea at all - for instance, that Kraft macaroni and cheese is the best food ever - then find some aide somewhere who would go on record saying it.
Stop feeding the trolls
I'm so tired of people on Lemmy/kbin downvoting news because it doesn't support their narrative. Like argue all you want about Biden staying in the race, that's great and fine. But do you think trying to suppress news of people's legitimate doubts is really the way to win an election?
There is a concerted foreign effort to manipulate the election.
We all know some people don't want Biden again and we know the reasons.
Posting 30 some links a day of people saying the same thing isn't news, it isn't informative, and it isn't useful.
I don't doubt some people are saying it. But the effort is being made to make it sound like the DNC is suppressing a rebellion when that isn't at all what's happening.
We do not have other candidates ready. In the last four years, not one person in the party tried to make themselves the successor.
We have the No Labels guy and the Brain Worms guy. No serious candidates have stepped forward.
So unless this endless tide of hand wringing has a plan, it's fucking useless.
As such, I do not believe mamy party insiders are trying to tank their candidate. This is foreign influence to demoralize the left, specifically to get the 'Bernie Bro' crowd to stay home because the DNC betrayed them again.
Man, I was with you until Dem Congresscritters started making public statements. This is a very abnormal situation. You don't make public statements like that unless the private channels have been tried and everything is truly fucked.
Fact is that the foreign campaign to demoralize voters against Trump will continue - and it WILL use this opportunity for all its worth - but that's not the same as saying that this isn't a real and significant issue that's come to fore.