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Yuki Tsunoda has asserted that it would be a “weird” situation should Red Bull choose to promote reserve driver Liam Lawson to the parent Formula 1 team over him.

Red Bull appeared to have finalised its driver line-up heading into the coming seasons as it announced last month that Sergio Perez has penned a multi-term renewal.

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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think RB is trying to get someone as good or better than Max, I think RB is trying to get a balance of someone who is good enough to maximise points without challenging Max, while at the same time being good for sponsorship deals and marketing.

It'd be great if RB hired a "Rosberg", but that's not what they're after.

[–] FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don't think RB is trying to get someone as good or better than Max

Why wouldn't they be? Every team should be searching for the best available option for every seat, not some lukewarm placeholder to collect the scraps.

[–] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because having two equally fast and strong headed drivers is often counterproductive to a teams goal because they will fight with each other instead to working together for the benefit of the team. See alpines line up now or their previous line up with Alonso and ocon

[–] FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because that's totally never happened with Max and Checo? Team orders to swap places that get ignored, second guessing radio calls about strategy compared to your teammate, etc.

Shit happens. Teams know this. Teams just want to win. Even going back to Lewis and Nico, Merc kept Nico until he chose to leave them, even through the conflict.

But speculation and opinions are all part of the fun of F1. We can always count on the teams to do some crazy shit for some random reason.

[–] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because that's totally never happened with Max and Checo? Team orders to swap places that get ignored, second guessing radio calls about strategy compared to your teammate, etc.

Yeah I don't remember any incident where perez refused to swap places with max when he was ahead and the only time max was asked to swap for perez to go ahead was when max was racing with a damaged car. Usually max is around 10-50 seconds ahead of perez so there is no chance of them sabotaging each others races

Even going back to Lewis and Nico, Merc kept Nico until he chose to leave them, even through the conflict.

While this is true, their decision to keep bottas alongside Hamilton in every season after 2017 was substantially influenced by the fact that they did not want to create a toxic atmosphere like what they had with Lewis and Nico by getting a better, more competitive driver.

[–] FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

and the only time max was asked to swap for perez to go ahead was when max was racing with a damaged car

Besides when he drove across the line while GP had a heart attack telling him to let Checo through lol. It is what it is, I'm just saying there is always conflict no matter what.

It's in every team's interest to pursue the fastest drivers, imo.

they did not want to create a toxic atmosphere

Not for whoever was number one, but fuck number two and how they might feel about it. Valtteri was pretty candid about how damaging it was to be in that role, and seemed pretty happy to be away from it when he signed with Alfa Romeo.

[–] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago

Valtteri was pretty candid about how damaging it was to be in that role, and seemed pretty happy to be away from it when he signed with Alfa Romeo.

Yeah ethically having a designated number two is not a good thing. The number two is mentally and emotionally affected in a major way but F1 is a cutthroat sport where the team is only looking for what's best for it

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I explained why.

And hiring/keeping Perez is proof they don't want the highest performing available option for both seats. It probably isn't a controversial opinion that Perez isn't one of the best on the grid.

[–] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah. Extending Perez's contract while sainz was available is a clear sign that they wanted what was better for the team. Just turned out that perez has become so slow that he is not able to fulfil his role of supporting Verstappen.