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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 53 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'll say it again: the problem isn't speeding, it's recklessness. Speeding, depending on circumstances, can be reckless, but recklessness is far more encompassing and speeding does not by default equal recklessness.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Agreed wholeheartedly. As long as people stick to their lanes and respect the lane priority, there's no problems.

Autobahn has fewer fatalities per km than your average city highway.

Racing has been safer than commuting for years.

Absolute speed isn't the problem - it's relative speed. Always has been. The problem is, the politicians need a line that even their constituents can understand, to rile up a mob.

[–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

IMO "speeding" doesn't mean "driving fast". It means "driving too fast for the conditions present". The Autobahn is designed for high speeds, city Streets aren't.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

And the fucking sadists in power (not everyone in power, just the sadists) are eager to take away driving freely and being in control of the car, which is a genuine feeling of pleasure that the lower classes get to experience.

There are those for whom the goal is misery. For them the misery isn’t a side effect of their own gain. It is the gain they seek.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago

Agree. This is why average speed over distance enforcement is so effective.

It gets people to concentrate on their speed and it gets people to drive at very similar speeds.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Right, going 5/10/15 even 20 over isn't going to make much of a difference especially on a highway.

Most road speed limits are set too low anyways because old people constantly complain to the city about them.

That being said, the fucks that are going fucking 60 in a 25 are absolutely being reckless regardless of how much they're paying attention

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It does make a difference, especially around pedestrians.

“Speeding accounts for nearly one-third of all fatalities on our roads and puts everyone at risk, including people in other vehicles, pedestrians, cyclists, motorcyclists and people with disabilities,” Acting Administrator Carlson said.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/speed-campaign-speeding-fatalities-14-year-high

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

From the people who brought you

“Pot causes you to become skitzo”

Now!

“All speed limits should be 35 or lower!”

You also antivax and believe the moon landing is fake? Maybe cut down on the pot, especially if you're driving above 35.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No pedestrians on the freeway dude

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Try reading before you reply.

“Speeding accounts for nearly one-third of all fatalities on our roads and puts everyone at risk, including people in other vehicles, pedestrians, cyclists, motorcyclists and people with disabilities,” Acting Administrator Carlson said. [Emphasis mine, dude]

Feel free to click on the link in my comment. In there, there's even a link to the data they draw the conclusions from.

Pedestrians are especially but not exclusively susceptible to cars and speed differences, but all persons involved in accidents fare worse with increased speeds. https://news.ua.edu/2005/11/ua-traffic-safety-study-shows-relationship-between-speed-and-deaths/ it's a bit older, but it says chances of fatality double every additional 10mph over 35.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The comment above specifically mentioned highways. You specifically mentioned pedestrians, and it was the main topic of your comment.

It's two very different scenarios and I was only addressing one of them.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago
  • its driving

Honestly the fact we drive tons of metal at high speeds to move a couple hundred pounds/kilos of people is so silly.