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Holy shit.
In NY, even if he’s sentenced to prison, it’s up to the judge’s discretion whether he has to report to prison while awaiting appeal…and we all know he’s going to appeal.
Well here's hoping this judge is tired enough of Trump's shit.
Something something historic trial something decorum something tradition and that's why he'll walk free.
That and the judge is probably terrified of having his house firebombed.
This is exactly why Judges have been so lenient on him. None of them want to go from country clubbing to having firsthand knowledge of the witness protection program.
I disagree with that. The judges need to be a bit lenient with him so nobody can say that the judge was biased against him. This was sort of frustrating to those of us who saw the judge as being too nice to Trump, but its now a lot harder to say he was gunning to get him convicted.
Idk Trump was literally attacking this judge's daughter.
Any other person would've been held in contempt.
Yeah, so the fact that he wasn't proves my point. The Judge wasn't showing signs of wanting to get Trump convicted. Compare that to if Trump is required to be in jail throughout the trail, because he was held in contempt. The right would be saying the judge, and this same verdict, were corrupt. That's what they're saying, now but there's less evidence for them to use.
Even a mere 6 months would be enough.
Its about convincing people still on the fence with Trump. The most vocal are saying that the jury was a sham. The ones in the middle are less vocal. By not giving vocal Republicans any ammo, it helps make a convincing case to those Republican voters that weren't hardline republicans/MAGAs. They're the ones we need along with the voters that switch from the 2016 to 2020 elections.
Don’t know about that, judging by the show Delocated, the witness protection program looks fun. Your own skins bar!
We'll see on July 11th, but most likely it's going to be some symbolic fine or gesture, but we're not seeing this geriatric, senile old man who is also a former president, go to prison, where he would likely die as the country faces massive terrorist attacks and uprisings of dumbasses with deadly weapons, no judge in the country would do that no matter their political leaning if they at all took their job seriously and didn't want to have entire chapters written about them in the coming history books.
House arrest may be an option but that would be seen as a political attack because it would stop him from campaigning and that would go straight to supreme court, which we know how that would turn out. Judges know all this, their hands are pretty much tied.
edit: I can't understand this internet knee-jerk response system that plagued reddit as well as here where people will just downvote a comment to oblivion if they don't like the possible reality it presents. You're not exercising your critical thinking here, you're making yourself dumber by not considering things you don't like.
If your hands are tied by the corruption of others, make them do the corruption, don't just preemptively do it for them.
Sorry but if they have a spine, their hands are most definitely not tied. That’s the problem with the system as it relates to this piece of shit. Everyone makes excuses.
Fuck that. It’s time to show that the rule of law matters no matter who the fuck you are. Maybe if he’s made an example of, Presidents will think twice before breaking the law.
But, I agree that the GOP, probably this judge, the Supreme Court, and Congress — none of them have a spine.
Why are we so sure that Trump supporters are going to start major terrorist attacks and riots etc? Sure there will be some stragglers here and there but in general they are too stupid and too lazy to even start organising. If January 6th would have been prepared correctly on side of the police force, ie actual riot police present instead of beat cops and doormen, it would have been over in 10 minutes. If they were truly able to start shit, yesterday’s conviction should have triggered them already. It really shouldn’t keep Trump out of jail when the fear is that a Walmart fat guy in camo might shoot up a Starbucks.
Everyone likes to circlejerk about revolution or whatever, but for 99.9% of people in developed countries, life is too good to put it on the line.
I'm saying that people in positions of leadership, from judges to attorneys are not going to want to take that chance and be the ones responsible on even the remote chance that there's any kind of civil unrest. This is regardless of the actual chances of anything happening, it's about liability not probability.
I don’t understand what you mean. They wouldn’t be liable or responsible if they just did their job.
They aren’t the ones who would instruct people to riot or do terrorism, which would make them liable.
To construct a liability or responsibility out of their duty is what the fascist side would try to do, so I have to assume you’re one of them?
So far I am not under the impression that the government would not do what needs to be done. I think it’s obvious that 99% of Trump supporters are just talk, and mainly talk in anonymity on the internet.
So what you're saying is he's definitely going to prison.
I really wonder if the judge will call out Trumps behavior, the multiple gag order violations, etc. and use all that to justify a harsher sentence. One can only hope…
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Oh damn, I completely forgot about /r/askouija
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We have communities here, not subreddits.
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As opposed to on reddit.
Which is clearly what they were talking about.
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He was a former president. The prosecution would never have gone to trial without a watertight case.
Sure, but I still didn't expect the jury to be unanimous and especially not on all counts. Glad they were though :-)