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Idk how people still stomach Nintendo. They get 1 decent exclusive every other year, while the rest of the time, they are overcharging for all their garbage products. Most anticonsumer, anticompetition developer on the market that releases products that lag behind the rest of the industry by 5-10 years.
They crush emulation and antique game preservation sites as a hobby.
How is yet another Mario game worth coming back to?
We're all mad about the emulation situation, but this is just silly. People really very much enjoy nintendo games now more than ever. Their player base is very very very satisfied
Yes, I am acknowledging that in my comment. I'm saying I don't understand how people stomach this garbage, and I stated the specifics of what I found so repulsive in the co sumption of their products.
Maybe start from a place of understanding rather than hostility and you might get somewhere.
Yall are crying victim to deflect from the conversation about supporting a garbage company that weilds capitalism as a weapon.
No one is capable of having a conversation with you because all you do is attack other people and not respond to them.
Where is the insult here? I called yall out after yall trash talked first. Yall start shit but don't like it when it is addressed.
Let me know what your favorite video game series is, and I’ll tell you why I think it sucks. You then let me know how much you don’t care about my opinion, and then you’ll understand why people like Nintendo.
You need something to whatabout because you can't address the points directly. Childish response that fits the childish fanbase of Nintendo perfectly.
The only game developers that are anywhere in the same running as Nintendo on Anticonsumer practices would be EA, Ubisoft, and Warner Brothers. Maybe arguably Playstation and Xbox.
Literally any other game developer could be listed as a favorite game series and avoid most of the criticisms I've laid out.
I don’t own a single Nintendo product, I’m hardly the “fan base.”
Sure, that's why you felt the need to not discuss the topic.
Feel free to respond to the content of my comment at some point.
You never responded to mine so why would I respond to yours. Name your favorite game series, and then press send—we can start from there.
Sure you would.
Sure you would.
Some people enjoy the games, and that's okay.
Absolutely hyperbole. Just last year, we got Tears of the Kingdom, Mario Wonder, Pikmin 4, and Advance Wars Reboot. Doesn’t matter if these aren’t your kind of games, they sold well, were critically acclaimed, and won awards.
For graphics, sure. For creativity, accessibility, and all the other things that matter in video games? They lead the industry
While I agree that the above commented is in order. It does not lead the industry in all other things. They are pretty mixed with performance and their online is pretty awful in comparison to other options. Accessibility is an awkward choice of words since I expect you mean accessible to ages because it also has pretty bad accessibility options. While people often mock Sony for playing it safe with it's cinematic games it also feels like Nintendo's IPs have slowly been conglomeration into a mould over the switches life.
Lmao. Thank you for this list of examples of my point.
I enjoy their games through sailing the high seas.
Which I support. I dont support people who are financing this corporate behemoth that destroys video game history and fans for money.
Many of the most fun games I've played the past 5 years are made by Nintendo. You might not like them and that is okay, but tgey are by no means garbage.
The next take is probably more controversial, but I don't think they are overcharging. Why drop the price after a year or two? Games don't get magically less fun and their games are usually polished enough to last for the entire gen without being overshadowed by later releases (expect for Pokemon, they are hot garbage - at least on the technical side). I'd even argue that not dropping their prices is one of the reasons Nintendo doesn't need the mtx bullshit most other developers pull with their games. Just look at how well Mario Kart sells despite being something like a decade old at this point.
Play better games is my recommendation. Have a better frame of reference lmao. That will help you understand why a 30-hour Nintendo title charging $70 doesn't even compete with modern $15 indie titles.
Awfully presumptuous of you, I've played most major releases within the genres I like. Let me tell you, the Xenoblade series is among the best RPGs I've played - up there with Persona and everything Fromsoftware among others.
Also, what's up with the 30h comment? A good chunk of their games are longer than that. But it doesn't matter anyway, or you're also arguing against the quality of every God of War, every The Last of Us, Bloodborne, every Portal, Hades, every BioShock, every Resident Evil - you get it. A good chunk of these is also below 20h, and all of them are beloved and once sold at full price. All of them worth it, if you like the genre.
The only game Nintendo's charged $70 for so far is Tears of the Kingdom, which your description doesn't match at all
Regarding "overcharging".
The only price that exists is the one they offer for it. If you think it's too expensive for what is offered, congratulations, you know how to spend money. For any kind of product whatsoever.
I certainly think Super Mario Odyssey or Super Mario Bros Wonder were worth their price tag, because they're great. And that's completely subjective.
You either think it's worth it and buy it, or you don't. They're selling games, not food and water. And you've got a freaking galaxy of other games to choose from.
Wonder wasn't worth thenplastic it was wrapped in. I know that is an opinion but I was very disappointed.
As a longtime Mario fan, I liked it - but it did feel a bit short. I would have been disappointed if I'd paid full price for it.
As somebody who isn't buying their products, I can say they are overcharging. Your point falls apart when your base assumption is removed.
You certainly can.
It shouldn't matter at all to you though. And it sounds absolutely ridiculous when you're shouting your outrage at people who do buy some of their products.
Yes, a comment on a board is shouting outrage.
Shout your outrage elsewhere. Yall are desperate for a personal insult to avoid confronting the conversation about Nintendo.
Really? Even more than those gacha / loot boxes heavy gaming-as-a-service companies?
What an ironic point to make with 0 context.
Nintendo is the original gacha / lootbox developer. You must not remember their original big money maker was selling randomized packs of collectible cards to children, a practice they are still perfecting to this day.
Nintendo has 10x the market share of any other gacha game too, so even if others are more exploitative, they aren't causing as much overall damage due to market share.
I don't know why you are getting downvoted. Their actions against yuzu and citra are particularly egregious, and unforgivable in my eyes. Especially, considering they use emulation in their own products. For instance, the nes mini used roms download from the Internet. I'll think twice about buying Nintendo products in the future, and I love Nintendo products.
He's getting downvotes because he's acting like a jackass. Like yeah, I'm pretty sure everyone here has some axe or another to grind with Nintendo, they do plenty of shitty things. But to act like their games are somehow objectively bad and that everyone who likes them is just stupid? That's just divorced from reality and overall pretty immature. Obviously it's plenty possible for someone to not personally enjoy the games Nintendo puts out, art is highly subjective, but their games are generally solid.
I like how you had to make up shit I didn't say to get mad about and justify yall making asses of yourselves in defense of exploitative capitalism.
You don't like that your shameful behavior has been called out and need an excuse to cope.
Nintendo isn't against emulation. They're against piracy, which Yuzu was facilitating. None of the emulators that don't have specific support for unreleased games have been touched so far.
Lies. They have taken down multiple classic emulation websites over the years. Yuzu was only the most recent victim of their bs.
They take down private mods made by individuals all the time, too. It's straight-up coping to deny the vile shit Nintendo does in the name of profit.