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[–] takeda@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (10 children)

From what I understand the thing isn't see through and the eyes are actually projected outside. Can somebody explain why they had to add tech to do it?

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because there are screens in the way? The choice was to either not have the viewer's eyes be visible, or use a screen to display eyes (not even real eyes, you can supposedly have cat eyes for an example). Considering the device is meant to be AR (augmented reality) and not VR, it kinda makes sense to show the user's eyes since they're still "connected" to the outside world. Otherwise you'd have a bunch of blank visors walking around and then people can't tell if you're looking at them or your furry waifu.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You know how Microsoft solved this problem?

With glass.

[–] ColdFenix@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

And it sucked, fov of the augmented area was tiny, the projected images were see-through and you still couldn't really see the persons eyes because of the tinted glass. Vr headsets with cameras are currently by far the best way to do AR.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Google had Glass. Windows Mixed Reality used glass. The material. Like a window.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago

Microsoft Hololens (glass and transparent screen) and Google Glass (tiny screen)

[–] Robbsen1@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then go and buy Microsoft's product. Nobody forces you to get a Vision Pro

[–] ModsAreCopsACAB@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao look at this bozo defending the shittiest apple product.

[–] Robbsen1@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 year ago

What? Where did I defend the Vision Pro? I just don't get why people get so emotionally invested about something nobody ever forces them to buy or use.

[–] qisope@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

You actually remove your eyes before inserting the optical couplers into your sockets. You put your eyes in the storage compartment on the front giving the appearance that you're looking out through the device.

[–] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe they think it makes you look less stupid.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

They have Tesla truck success in that, then.

[–] xxd@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 year ago

I think this is kind of a temporary workaround. In Apples ideal world, the Vision Pro would actually be transparent and you could see the users eyes for real, but the tech isn't ready to project what apple is doing on glasses. So they settled for a VR headset and put eyes on the outside. Eventually in however many years it takes, they will actually use glasses and won't have to do the screen on the outside. They must believe, that being able to see Vision Pro users eyes is integral to the product, or at least important to the product being accepted by everyone.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

What do you mean? They added the outside screen to a vr headset to try to make it more acceptable to wear around others.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 6 points 1 year ago

Imagine you're sitting in restaurant waiting for the waiter while doing some work on your Vision Pro. The waiter shows up and says 'sir...'. You look at him and... there were two options:

  • it's just a black screen so it's not clear if you're actually looking at him. Are you paying attention? Of are you still 'inside' and can't hear/see anyone

  • you have this fake eyes indicating that you're actually looking at him

It's a really stupid "solution" to a huge problem all VR/AR has The actual solution? Don't buy it.

[–] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

So they can sell you custom eyes like cats and aliens and shit.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago
[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

And the eyes are not the wearer's eyes. They are just digital eyes.

[–] VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

So the oculus rip off was less obvious to trust fund kids