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[–] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 48 points 10 months ago (8 children)

The Swiss also don't celebrate weapons as much as the US Americans.

I struggle to find the correct word. Celebrate isn't it, but I'm too tired to think about a better one and I don't want to start a comment war here. You'll probably understand what I meant.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The Swiss also have compulsory military service (at least for men) where they theoretically teach you how to use and presumably not be a dummy with your gun.

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also do Switzerland have carry laws? If everyone left their firearms at home it would be much less of an issue too.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes:

"If you wish to carry a weapon in a public place, you must obtain a permit do so from the cantonal authorities. The permit is valid throughout Switzerland and you must have it on you at all times."

"Your application to carry a weapon will only be granted if you can prove that you must carry a weapon, for example if you are a private security officer, in order to protect yourself, other people or objects from tangible danger. You must also pass an exam on how to use weapons and the legal requirements for doing so."

Cantons are about the size of a county in the United States, so imagine getting a concealed permit for a particular county. They don't carry over, so you're not going to be able to travel very far with it.

Not that Swiss people really travel that far either...

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In Florida it’s a form that doesn’t do a background check and doesn’t even check that your main residence is in Florida. Then you can use that license in other states.

John Oliver did an episode on how absurd it is.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

There are quite a few states that do not allow CCW permits from other states. New York, California, Oregon, Washington and many others.

The states that honor all U.S.-issued concealed carry permits are:

Alabama Alaska Arizona Arkansas Idaho Indiana Kansas Kentucky Michigan (resident permits only) Mississippi Missouri Montana North Carolina Ohio Oklahoma Sout Dakota Tennessee Utah Vermont Virginia

[–] sadbehr@lemmy.nz 10 points 10 months ago

Could this compulsory military service also alert authorities to people that aren't suitable to own private firearms?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Fetishize is probably the word you want. Guns aren’t a tool here, they’re a symbol

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

I think the word is "fetishize"

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I think a large part of it is the politicization of firearms that has made gun ownership a lifestyle choice for unstable people.

You've got a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists being told that the liberals are out to kill their god and take their weapons, so they stock up on weapons that they use when they finally crack.

We've manufactured a system where the mentally unstable are actively encouraged to arm themselves.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I use the word 'clutch' often, as a baby with a blanket or an old nerd with vi. They're unwilling to find a better solution than a gun, and the gun lobby tells us it's all okay as long as we have our Glock.

...come to think of it, so much rap music seemed to do the same, for awhile.

[–] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Sorry it took me so long to answer, I accidentally started vi and had to reboot my computer to quit it.

Not a bad word at all, this might be the correct one.

[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I agree with you. There is no need for a comment war.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Flaunt? It really is w divide. We have normal people, some of whom are responsible gun owners but most of whom don't have guns, and then we have that crowd