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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it’s not that hard to have basic levels of respect for people using neo pronouns, and if they’re trolling then let them slip up and get banned for that.

Okay? Where does that play into your slander about the .world 196 being filled with people who don't respect neopronouns?

it’s just an observed pattern of behavior that .world has a lot of cis people who misgender people when they disagree with them like it’s an argument

So now it's not the .world 196, it's .world in general.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So now it’s not the .world 196, it’s .world in general.

there was a pretty clear reason they left and went to .world, they fit the culture better there

I don't even use /196 I was just watching from the sidelines for that one lol

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So first it was you asserting that .world 196 doesn't respect neopronouns, then it turned into .world has a tendency to have people who don't respect neopronouns, and now it's "I have a vibe that 196 doesn't respect pronouns, but I don't actually use 196".

btw, are you still banned from the 196 on Blahaj? Of course, you don't use it. :)

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I was banned from blahaj 196 for suggesting that they have a healthy relationship with other people IRL instead of behaving terminally online, yes

you should re-block me your posts are awful

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't believe I've ever blocked you, lmao

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I wasn't seeing any of your posts for a blessedly long period of time. weird, wonder why that was if it wasn't a block

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ask your cretinous .ml admins to site ban me again from an instance I don't even post on for the sin of thinking that Ukrainians and Uyghurs are people. :)

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think they're from Crete, maybe you should try insulting people less in the future?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don’t think they’re from Crete, maybe you should try insulting people less in the future?

Someone from Crete is a Cretan, not a cretin. If you're going to loudly trumpet your position as ESL as a deflection of your own inability to parse basic English conversations, maybe you should take a step away from trying to correct the English of others.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I was just pointing out that your first response was ableist insult, am I not worthy of pointing out when an English speaking person is insulting people?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was just pointing out that your first response was ableist insult,

I thought you were trying to say it was an insult based on some form of nationality. You did, after all, say, and I quote

I don’t think they’re from Crete, maybe you should try insulting people less in the future?

Unless being from Crete is a disability, you didn't point out, real or attempted, anything regarding ableism.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

you called them 'cretins' which is an ableist insult, and I said I don't think they're from Crete. I was not saying that being from Crete is a disability, I was pointing out your insult

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you called them ‘cretins’ which is an ableist insult, and I said I don’t think they’re from crete

Implying that being from Crete is a disability, which it is not.

maybe try insulting people less?

Maybe try being less cretinous.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

we already established if you were calling them from Crete it would be Cretans, you're just insulting them and now me.

you're really not doing much to disprove my original point tbh

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

we already established if you were calling them from Crete it would be Cretans,

Correct, which is why your objection was baseless.

you’re just insulting them and now me.

I never denied insulting them. The .ml admins are absolutely vile and cretinous.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if so then it surely takes one to know one

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if so then it surely takes one to know one

So we're in agreement that the .ml admins are vile and cretinous. :)

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not sure you're taking my meaning. if you're willing to insult people like that it says more about you than them

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If it "Takes one to know one", then you are not merely affirming that I'm vile and cretinous, you are also necessarily affirming that my recognition of the .ml admins as vile and cretinous is correct by regarding my qualities as necessarily granting me insight as to whether or not the admins share said qualities.

I understand that might be too complex for you to parse on short notice, considering your previous difficulty with discerning the meaning of plainly stated reasons in the form of the written word regarding the 196 issue, but I'm sure that if you sit and ponder it for a few hours, it might eventually click.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

if so then it surely takes one to know one

I draw the line at ableist insult, but if you want to insult people like that I'm just going to assume you're doing so from a position of experience.

I can see why you have such a hard time with people offering real-world advice like 'dont try to force others people to change their opinions'

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I draw the line at ableist insult, but if you want to insult people like that I’m just going to assume you’re doing so from a position of experience.

If it's an ableist insult, like you claim, wouldn't that mean you're insulting me on ableist terms?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

hardly, I'm just pointing out that you're clearly speaking as the most authoritative person on the subject

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

hardly, I’m just pointing out that you’re clearly speaking as the most authoritative person on the subject

But your claim of my authority is that I am cretinous, which is an ableist insult according to you.

It seems it takes very little to get you to whip out the ableist insults. That's pretty disgusting, ngl.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I believe it was you who started calling people cretins, also I didn't even call you anything, just observed that you are supreme authority on the matter

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I believe it was you who started,

So if someone uses what you regard as an ableist insult, you think it's appropriate to use that same ableist insult against them? Wow. I'd hate to hear your opinions on the r-word.

also I didn’t even call you anything, just observed that you are supreme authority on the matter

Then we're in agreement that the .ml admins are cretinous, since I'm the supreme authority on the matter. Thank you for affirming my opinion, strange that you would go through all this trouble just to agree with me though. :)

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if someone is running around calling people ableist slurs, it says more about them than anyone they're defaming

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if someone is running around calling people ableist slurs, it says more about them than anyone they’re defaming

I agree, which is why it's horrific that you're calling me cretinous, when, by your own admission, you see it as an ableist slur. Very sad, even.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you’re calling me cretinous

citation needed, I just observed that you seem to be the foremost expert on the subject matter based on how liberally you use the term for other people

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

citation needed, I just observed that you seem to be the foremost expert on the subject matter based on how liberally you use the term for other people

This you?

if so then it surely takes one to know one

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah, I'm just deferring to your expert knowledge that you've demonstrated, what's the issue?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah, I’m just deferring to your expert knowledge that you’ve demonstrated, what’s the issue?

if so then it surely takes one to know one

Would you like to explain what 'one' is here? Or are you trying to wiggle out of the fact that you are, by your own standards, a disgusting ableist?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I gotta say this is an impressive attempt to darvo this when you opened up by being like "all these people I don't like are cretins"

'If everywhere you go smells like shit, check your shoes' was essentially my response, but now I'm the one offender. Clearly you are just always put upon.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I gotta say this is an impressive attempt to darvo this

So you can't explain what 'one' means without admitting that you meant 'cretin' or 'cretinous', a term that you interpret as ableist.

Sorry that you're an ableist. It's pretty disgusting.

‘If everywhere you go smells like shit, check your shoes’ was essentially my response,

Not even close, lmao. But I don't expect much from disingenuous cretins. :)

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

calls me ableist for mocking his use of ableist language

calls me a cretin in the same post in response

pugjesus moment

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I said, quite openly, that I don't find cretin an ableist insult. You said, quite openly, that you feel cretin is an ableist insult.

Sorry that you can't live up to your own standards? I'd say you should lower them, but I doubt you could live up to them then either.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

🍿

I'm notnsure why you debated for so long, but it was quite the read lol.

Good work fighting the good fight pug.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have trouble letting arguments go until they've no life left in them. Like leaving a painting on the wall slightly crooked.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

An understandable thing, really, we all have our quirks. In other news I have perfectly aligned pens on my desk at home.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you insult everyone you disagree with? if so your chronic internet usage makes perfect sense.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you insult everyone you disagree with?

Just the idiots.

if so your chronic internet usage makes perfect sense.

That's quite an ableist interpretation.

There's something wrong with the text, got those weird-ass backwards letters and shit.

Something about "only knowing two ways to solve problems", I don't know, can't read moon language.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

you’re really not doing much to disprove my original point tbh

Your original point showing that you know nothing about the 196 split and that you baselessly spread slander about 196 not respecting neopronouns?

That original point is already long disproven.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“I have a vibe that 196 doesn’t respect pronouns, but I don’t actually use 196”.

I said that was the reason they left, because it was a huge debacle that nobody could miss when it happened.

I'm the esl person here, is reading what I'm saying instead of of making up shit really that difficult?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I said that was the reason they left, because it was a huge debacle that nobody could miss when it happened.

You didn't miss it, but apparently, you were completely incapable of parsing what was going on. Which is unsurprising coming from someone who bootlicks dictators and thinks that's leftism. :)

instead of of making up shit

lmao, coming from someone who's claiming the 196 move was over .world not respecting neopronouns, when respecting neopronouns is still a rule on the .world 196 and has been since day 1 of the move.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

maybe you should tell me what your narrative is then

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

maybe you should tell me what your narrative is then

Exactly what the 196 mods said, if you'd bothered to read literally any of the stickied posts that came up at the time. There was disagreement with the admins over how to moderate 196, especially regarding ban lengths and presumption of good faith.

But of course, you didn't read any of it. You made up a narrative that you suited your pre-existing biases, and proceed to spread it even though, but your own admission, you didn't follow the issue - apparently at all. Of course, you also claimed that you don't use 196 despite having been banned from 196, so maybe you aren't the most reliable narrator. :)

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

you also claimed that you don’t use 196 despite having been banned from 196, so maybe you aren’t the most reliable narrator.

it's called /all I hadn't bothered the block the new 196 so it showed up, I commented because I took it as some earnestly asking for advice, rather than a cj thread

There was disagreement with the admins over how to moderate 196, especially regarding ban lengths and presumption of good faith

wonder what the good faith issue was 🤔

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it’s called /all I hadn’t bothered the block the new 196 so it showed up, I commented because I took it as some earnestly asking for advice, rather than a cj thread

And then proceeded to complain about the ban in YePowerTrippingBastards, citing the 196 sidebar rules in your complaint. Clearly you had no clue where you were. :)

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

yeah, not hard to check those things after the fact?