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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I was just pointing out that your first response was ableist insult, am I not worthy of pointing out when an English speaking person is insulting people?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was just pointing out that your first response was ableist insult,

I thought you were trying to say it was an insult based on some form of nationality. You did, after all, say, and I quote

I don’t think they’re from Crete, maybe you should try insulting people less in the future?

Unless being from Crete is a disability, you didn't point out, real or attempted, anything regarding ableism.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

you called them 'cretins' which is an ableist insult, and I said I don't think they're from Crete. I was not saying that being from Crete is a disability, I was pointing out your insult

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you called them ‘cretins’ which is an ableist insult, and I said I don’t think they’re from crete

Implying that being from Crete is a disability, which it is not.

maybe try insulting people less?

Maybe try being less cretinous.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

we already established if you were calling them from Crete it would be Cretans, you're just insulting them and now me.

you're really not doing much to disprove my original point tbh

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

we already established if you were calling them from Crete it would be Cretans,

Correct, which is why your objection was baseless.

you’re just insulting them and now me.

I never denied insulting them. The .ml admins are absolutely vile and cretinous.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if so then it surely takes one to know one

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if so then it surely takes one to know one

So we're in agreement that the .ml admins are vile and cretinous. :)

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not sure you're taking my meaning. if you're willing to insult people like that it says more about you than them

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If it "Takes one to know one", then you are not merely affirming that I'm vile and cretinous, you are also necessarily affirming that my recognition of the .ml admins as vile and cretinous is correct by regarding my qualities as necessarily granting me insight as to whether or not the admins share said qualities.

I understand that might be too complex for you to parse on short notice, considering your previous difficulty with discerning the meaning of plainly stated reasons in the form of the written word regarding the 196 issue, but I'm sure that if you sit and ponder it for a few hours, it might eventually click.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

if so then it surely takes one to know one

I draw the line at ableist insult, but if you want to insult people like that I'm just going to assume you're doing so from a position of experience.

I can see why you have such a hard time with people offering real-world advice like 'dont try to force others people to change their opinions'

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I draw the line at ableist insult, but if you want to insult people like that I’m just going to assume you’re doing so from a position of experience.

If it's an ableist insult, like you claim, wouldn't that mean you're insulting me on ableist terms?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

hardly, I'm just pointing out that you're clearly speaking as the most authoritative person on the subject

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

hardly, I’m just pointing out that you’re clearly speaking as the most authoritative person on the subject

But your claim of my authority is that I am cretinous, which is an ableist insult according to you.

It seems it takes very little to get you to whip out the ableist insults. That's pretty disgusting, ngl.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I believe it was you who started calling people cretins, also I didn't even call you anything, just observed that you are supreme authority on the matter

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I believe it was you who started,

So if someone uses what you regard as an ableist insult, you think it's appropriate to use that same ableist insult against them? Wow. I'd hate to hear your opinions on the r-word.

also I didn’t even call you anything, just observed that you are supreme authority on the matter

Then we're in agreement that the .ml admins are cretinous, since I'm the supreme authority on the matter. Thank you for affirming my opinion, strange that you would go through all this trouble just to agree with me though. :)

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if someone is running around calling people ableist slurs, it says more about them than anyone they're defaming

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if someone is running around calling people ableist slurs, it says more about them than anyone they’re defaming

I agree, which is why it's horrific that you're calling me cretinous, when, by your own admission, you see it as an ableist slur. Very sad, even.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you’re calling me cretinous

citation needed, I just observed that you seem to be the foremost expert on the subject matter based on how liberally you use the term for other people

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

citation needed, I just observed that you seem to be the foremost expert on the subject matter based on how liberally you use the term for other people

This you?

if so then it surely takes one to know one

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah, I'm just deferring to your expert knowledge that you've demonstrated, what's the issue?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah, I’m just deferring to your expert knowledge that you’ve demonstrated, what’s the issue?

if so then it surely takes one to know one

Would you like to explain what 'one' is here? Or are you trying to wiggle out of the fact that you are, by your own standards, a disgusting ableist?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I gotta say this is an impressive attempt to darvo this when you opened up by being like "all these people I don't like are cretins"

'If everywhere you go smells like shit, check your shoes' was essentially my response, but now I'm the one offender. Clearly you are just always put upon.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I gotta say this is an impressive attempt to darvo this

So you can't explain what 'one' means without admitting that you meant 'cretin' or 'cretinous', a term that you interpret as ableist.

Sorry that you're an ableist. It's pretty disgusting.

‘If everywhere you go smells like shit, check your shoes’ was essentially my response,

Not even close, lmao. But I don't expect much from disingenuous cretins. :)

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

calls me ableist for mocking his use of ableist language

calls me a cretin in the same post in response

pugjesus moment

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I said, quite openly, that I don't find cretin an ableist insult. You said, quite openly, that you feel cretin is an ableist insult.

Sorry that you can't live up to your own standards? I'd say you should lower them, but I doubt you could live up to them then either.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

🍿

I'm notnsure why you debated for so long, but it was quite the read lol.

Good work fighting the good fight pug.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have trouble letting arguments go until they've no life left in them. Like leaving a painting on the wall slightly crooked.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

An understandable thing, really, we all have our quirks. In other news I have perfectly aligned pens on my desk at home.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you insult everyone you disagree with? if so your chronic internet usage makes perfect sense.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you insult everyone you disagree with?

Just the idiots.

if so your chronic internet usage makes perfect sense.

That's quite an ableist interpretation.

There's something wrong with the text, got those weird-ass backwards letters and shit.

Something about "only knowing two ways to solve problems", I don't know, can't read moon language.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

you’re really not doing much to disprove my original point tbh

Your original point showing that you know nothing about the 196 split and that you baselessly spread slander about 196 not respecting neopronouns?

That original point is already long disproven.