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[–] Juice@midwest.social 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Stay on message, Democrats! Remember, it wasn't the Democrats fault for losing, it was those loony leftists for going against the approved narrative of the Democratic Party. The Dems aren't out of touch or negligent, and Bill Mahr is funny and relevant.

God the comments suck on this post

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (24 children)

Do you think maybe there can be more than one source of culpability for things in this universe?

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[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Well, the truth can sting a little if you've just found out you've been fooled. The important thing is to grow up and learn from your mistake.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Someone was telling you this shit was going to happen and there was only one way to even have a chance of preventing it. You decided compromise was for losers and are now reaping the rewards of your ill informed, short sighted decision. Why are you whining so much, you got exactly what you were told you would get.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (26 children)

So did you! You got exactly what we told you was going to happen, yet its our fault it happened. Look at this post! This whining is on your side my dude. I just can't believe you fools didn't stop with the brow beating after such a catastrophic loss. Couldn't do one fraction of a second of self reflection. I was not telling people not to vote for the democrat, but I didn't hide my real feelings either.

A movement to withhold votes against Democrats has been building for years. the uncommitted movement is ideologically closer to liberal democrats than so called tankies, but Dems threw them under the bus, called them Putin influenced for protesting against a genocide in the only way they knew how. I was fighting for Palestinian liberation in different ways, I don't really get too involved in electoral politics though I'm active politically. Never was I whining. God what projection.

It really demonstrates the two tendencies of liberalism: good conscientious people who are cool and hate injustice, vs. bloodless defenders of private capital who make noises like they care about justice so they can take power and broker influence.

Get a grip, do some actual criticism of your movement, do better for christs sakes. There wouldn't be nearly as many communists and anarchists becoming radicalized if democrats were even a little effective. They are the only force that has the power to oppose the fascists and criminals in charge of the republicans. and they blew it, time and time again. Stop blaming the people, the fucking lemmy posters for Christ sakes, and start looking at your party,and namely where they get their funding.

this may require you to read and process information instead of just repeating what some 68 year old millionaire said. Which may take some growth on your part, so maybe hydrate and stretch a little first.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

there was only one way to even have a chance of preventing it

State level electoral reform so people can vote outside the two party system without a spoiler effect

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Someone was telling you this shit was going to happen and there was only one way to even have a chance of preventing it

Preventing what? A genocide?

Harris was all on board with it.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Well you sure showed those democrats by not voting huh? Like shooting yourself but calling it a win because you got blood on the other guy.

The American left has become so toxic, and splintered into micro groups with special labels who all hate each other and reject each other's support while blaming each other and calling anyone even slightly right or even left of you an enemy. Meanwhile the right was united while trump and Netanyahu played you all so blatantly and obviously and you all bought it.

Well I’m sure Gazans thank you American leftists for staying home and letting trump win. I’m sure your blaming democrats will make them feel better

[–] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sadly you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you're voting you're supporting the status quo of the Dems really only listening to corporate backers, if you're not voting you're letting the opposition (Trump) have a better chance at office (which he did get). They're both terrible options, and I'm not sure blaming individuals who are tired of having to fight for the lesser evil instead of a better tomorrow is fair

[–] Juice@midwest.social 1 points 4 months ago

Are you suggesting that material conditions can be contradictory, moving people to make different, equally rational, decisions for conflicting reasons, rather than just being two camps that define all moral obligations as the opposite of the other?

Someone should look into this

[–] Juice@midwest.social 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I did vote, but I was also trying to tell people that the whole strategy of browbeating wasn't going to work. But that's all the dems have to offer which is why they lost.