Aren't the elections over? Whatever "strategic" excuse for supporting Biden/Harris is gone now. It's a bi-partisan policy of unconditional support for Israel.
It's true Trump will be more extreme, but there is no longer any excuse for going easy on Biden/Harris, if there ever was.
Yes, you are right. For more in-depth coverage and analysis, take a look at the article in this post: https://lemmy.ml/post/22677649
No, there is no "right" choice here, if you mean something that is going to benefit Palestine and Gaza in the short term. The vast majority of those who voted against Harris knew that Trump won't be better, but they could not go along with a candidate actively involved in genocide. Plus, they wanted to let the Democrats know that they would pay a price for their treachery. As it turned out, the pro-Palestine vote against Harris had a very clear effect in Michigan and Wisconsin, but it can't be blamed for her defeat.
Hey Jordan, sorry for the delay, but I just saw your comment. I just checked NSFW so we should be good now. Thanks for the heads-up. I didn't realize the photo was in NSFW territory but I will keep that in mind in the future. Thanks again.
The Israeli army, "the most moral army in the world." - PL
I just learned about this around 11:45pm ET November 4. I signed up as a swing-state voter, and in 5 minutes got connected with 2 safe-state voters who agreed to vote for Jill Stein as a swap for my (very reluctant) vote for Harris. I feel much better now. :-)
You should look at my post history a little harder. I have posted a lot on Palestine, and very few have centered on Harris. I consider the election choices very painful for anyone who wants to keep Trump out while not supporting an administration which is clearly collaborating in a genocide with Israel. Most likely I will hold my nose and vote for Harris, but I'm not sure yet. If I don't, I would be voting for Jill Stein.
Sorry if you think that my posting reflects "bad faith". I have responded to comments a few times, but generally I'm trying to get useful articles out to the Fediverse. (I also post a lot in Mastodon.)
I did write one long comment on voting for Harris, where I stated that it is a difficult decision for me, because each day I get angrier at the Biden/Harris blank check for Bibi. At the same time, I clearly don't want Trump.
Thanks for the reply. The only problem with Drop Site for me is that they are under Substack, and lemmy.world community admins will remove posts because they consider Substack a "blog" site, not a news site. (same for Zeteo).
I'm still struggling with who to vote for in November. I despise Harris but I truly think that Trump will go much farther than any previous President to trash democratic rights and electoral integrity (as much or little as that is).
There are other differences that are important, such as the NLRB - Biden put in basically pro-union admins and staff, and that has had a big effect on some of the recent union organizing victories. Climate change is another big difference, although the Dems are now boasting about how pro-fracking they are.
I know the Democrats and Republicans are both capitalist parties, and I want to see a workers/labor/socialist party to build and vote for. The Greens have a lot of good positions, but I don't know if they are the ones that could initiate a mass left/labor party.
I want the space and rights to fight another day, and Harris would be more advantageous for that. If it wasn't for that, it would be a slam dunk for the Greens.
The genocide in Gaza is clearly the overriding moral issue of our time, and that is another reason why I would like to help punish the Democrats for their disgusting and shameful hypocrisy. (But I also have concerns that I raised above.)
I find the discussion in the Fediverse on this topic to be usually too hostile and one-dimensional. Pro-Harris: "you fucking morons, do you really want Trump?" Anti-Harris: "you gutless swine, you're supporting genocide." Between the 2 sides, I have much more sympathy for the anti-Harris position, but it needs to go beyond moral outrage into some strategy to make fundamental change.
That statement is truly incredible! Biden helped give cover to Netanyahu (in addition to endless supplies of bombs) and drew one tiny red line for a few weeks (no bunker-busters in Rafah) and that faded quickly. He stopped funding UNWRA, even when other Western countries resumed it. Continuous support for Israel in the UN Security Council.
The West Bank example is grotesque. What effect did those sanctions have? None that I can see. The IDF has begun destroying infrastructure like they have done in Gaza, in addition to all of the killings.
So no, there is no reason to defend Biden/Harris. Is Trump worse? Yes, so what about it? Should we refrain from protesting because Democrats are in power right now?