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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This is an example of why the House of Representatives also exists.

[–] freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Except CA isn't fairly represented in the House either. CA would need 68 representatives just to have the same representation as Wyoming.

And say, shouldn't the states that have a huge economy and bring in more tax dollars have more of a say than the red welfare states that suck up those tax dollars? Just sayin...

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I disagree with the economy part. Fuck that. Your value isn't described by how much wealth you generate.

Republicans are (or were) hypocritical with their talk of fiscal responsibility while representing states that take in more money than they give back. This should be pointed out if they ever return to that argument. This isn't to say poor people from republican states (or anywhere else) are less valuable though. It's only hypocrisy that's wrong, not trying to help lower income people that's wrong.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's pointed out every time. Their base is completely blind to any kind of irony or hypocrisy.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Im not even sure theyre blind to it, they just only care about winning ethics be dammed

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago (5 children)

And say, shouldn’t the states that have a huge economy and bring in more tax dollars have more of a say than the red welfare states that suck up those tax dollars?

By that logic, a rich person should have more say in government?

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

No, they don't generate the tax dollars

[–] Liz@midwest.social 4 points 1 day ago

States are not people and should not be given any extra power simply for being a state.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The rich economy actually contributes

[–] uis@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago

shouldn't the states that have a huge economy and bring in more tax dollars have more of a say

Wtf, dude? Can you make something even more american-sounding?

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

CA would need 68 representatives just to have the same representation as Wyoming.

Every state is guaranteed one representative, and then otherwise by population. Wyoming has one representative.

[–] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Exactly and then based on that number what we SHOULD do is do proportionality based on that in the most even way possible. But then the issue is states like delaware with almost double Wyoming population would still be unequal since they would still get 1 representative but would be more fair for California. Congress shouldn't have a capped number. Every population of Wyoming size should have one representative in Congress this would give California 68

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

How about selecting reps independently from home state in a national election. Every million people get to send someone from anywhere. The dakotas can share one

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

The number should have been capped smaller. As it is, there are too many representatives; it's already impossibly hard to get anything through congress. If you want to make gridlock even worse, then sure, add more people.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago

Thanks for explaining how the system was rigged.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago

Except the House of Representatives had its numbers capped in the early 1900s, breaking its proportionality. Wyoming has 1 rep with a population 584k. California had 52 reps with a population of 38.97M. This makes the ration approximately 1 rep per 750k people. Working people count as nearly 1.5 Californians, for representation in the House, and similarly in the Electoral college.

[–] Zorg@lemmings.world 17 points 1 day ago

The house were any given rep represents between 550k and close to a million constituents?

[–] expr@programming.dev 11 points 1 day ago

There's no need for a bicameral system. It was a system designed to capitulate to wealthy interests and nothing more.