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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago (7 children)

trump only picked up 500,000 more votes than last time. Lets hear from the 10,000,000 that voted in 2020 but not this election

[–] Netux@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

That parts easy. They voted against trump and got absolutely nothing for it. They went back to being non voters because the dems showed they weren't going to do anything better than trump just had.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Covid killed at least 1,104,000 people in the United States to date. In 2020, about 385,000 were killed with Covid as a contributing cause. I can't find numbers about the total deaths that occurred before election day specifically, but for the sake of simplicity I'm going to use the year total. Just note that the actual number of deaths by that time was somewhat lower.

We can subtract the number that had already passed in 2020 from the total number of deaths to date. That gives us over 716,000 people who died of Covid between the 2020 election and today, and therefore could not have voted in 2024. Also note that the 65+ crowd is historically the most reliable voting demographic by age and Covid laid into that same age group the hardest.

We can be upset at people who didn't turn out to vote this election, but we can't dismiss the significant chunk of 2020 voters who simply weren't alive by 2024.

Why does this even matter? We have an electoral college and turnout in the seven swings state met or exceeded 2020 turnout.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 11 points 1 day ago

Those people could only be motivated to vote when it was as easy as possible and they had nothing better to do. They voted for the party that would handle COVID better and let them get back to their lives of not worrying about politics.

[–] whereisk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Maybe related to massive mail voting - just speculation haven’t seen breakdowns.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Didn't you hear? Starlink hacked the Voting Machines and deleted 20,000,000 Harris votes

I mean cheating to win is not even a crazy conspiracy theory. It's all the right has ever had to win, and this year, they had the richest person on the planet who has the technology on their side.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

When your platform is all about "hey at least I'm not that guy", it doesn't inspire people to vote

[–] immutable@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That was also Biden’s platform. It worked then because we were still in the grips of covid

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That was also part of Trump's platform. You can generally take whatever bad thing is happening at the moment and blame it on whoever is in charge in the moment. The only time that doesn't work is when most people agree that things are going well.

[–] immutable@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

The Dems also keep running as Republican Light. But if you are interested in Republican Light you’ll probably just vote Republican.

I think Jon Stewart had a good assessment of this the other night and the fact that the messaging coming out of the DNC is “we lost for running too far left” means they will try again next time too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKBJoj4XyFc

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That was Hillary's platform, Biden's platform, and Harris's platform.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And right after a trump administration.....

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Is the memory of voters really so poor?

How are we supposed to avoid repeating the mistakes of history when the voting public can’t even remember why they scrambled to get out and vote for Biden 4 years ago?

I mean, if Harris lost to somebody like Romney or McCain, sure I could see that voters weren’t excited by the campaign plus the racism/sexism angle. But to just ignore how absolutely insane Trump was as President, and all the open messaging about how next time will be worse, never mind all the criminal and traitorous stuff… it’s insane.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago

you're funny, maybe they might put you in the camps last.