this post was submitted on 24 Oct 2024
1735 points (97.6% liked)

Political Memes

5387 readers
2784 users here now

Welcome to politcal memes!

These are our rules:

Be civilJokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.

No misinformationDon’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.

Posts should be memesRandom pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.

No bots, spam or self-promotionFollow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 113 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (9 children)

Not to defend “them”, but I really do believe that very little of this has anything to do with the fact that she’s a woman. It’s a red versus blue thing, democracy versus fascism. At this point, it doesn’t really matter who runs for president, wrt gender or even race. Trump has attacked her race far more than mentioning anything about her gender. Nonetheless, Trump just sees the dems as “the enemy“, and has convinced all of his cultists to view things in the same terms.

Any other Republican of this current generation would probably attack her on her gender as much as her race, but for some reason, Trump only attacks things he doesn’t understand such as biraciality (biracialness? Biracitude?).

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 119 points 6 days ago (3 children)

They've attacked the fact she's a childless woman plenty. Like if it mattered for her policies. I doubt they'll straight up attack her for just being a woman much because they still want the conservative woman vote but they'll sure as shit attack her for woman things.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 6 days ago

Hey, that lady hasn't had kids. I haven't had kids, but that's ok because I'm a man. Fuck that bitch, she doesn't have kids, she can't be an american. /s

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think what he is saying is sexism is at play much less than tribalism.

I dont think any sane person can say that sexism is not at play at all.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

That's fair enough. Really it's a travesty at all that we have to rank what's being attacked, especially when it has nothing to do with policy.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 51 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Trump and his reich frequently attack her for being a step mother, accuse her of using sex for professional gain, and call her a cat lady. What the fuck are you talking about?

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I’ve heard people openly talking about this election being “whether a woman gets to be president or not”.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think what he is saying is sexism is at play much less than tribalism.

I dont think any sane person can say that sexism is not at play at all.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 5 days ago

I’m not disagreeing, just saying sexism is playing a much bigger part than I anticipated.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Were they saying it like it was a good thing or bad thing?

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 5 days ago

They were saying it the misogynistic way.

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

I'm sure it has much nuance, but all things being equal. If she were a 45 year old white man, I believe it would be a lot less close.

[–] BanjoShepard@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

While I agree that at its heart it's a red vs blue issue, I've seen more than enough explicitly sexist commentary from Trump supporters, most commonly suggesting that Kamala has attained her status via sexual favors rather than years of public service.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I believe that a lot of it has to do with her being a non-white woman.

Obviously, something like 30-40% of people had already picked a side and were going to vote either Trump or whoever was not Trump on the other ticket. But, there are still plenty of people in the middle. Given how extreme the US is, the "middle" isn't reasonable, thoughtful people. They're all voting for the democrats. It's racists who don't think abortion should be banned. It's sexists who are concerned with corruption. It's people who are in the alt-right bubble and think that George Soros and Bill Gates are using mosquitoes to infect people with 5G... but who think Trump is a Freemason, so you can't vote for him.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 2 points 4 days ago

👍 in my country I'm in the middle, but by US-American standards I'm far left (or more left than the democrats at least).

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago

Pretty much, I used to think Hillary was just THAT unpopular, and that Trump could never win a fair election with someone competent, capable, and without baggage.

I really hope I wasn't wrong...

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

They are new to politics, and are using the only model they find applicable:

Sports spectating, ala pro-wrestling or college football.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

To add to that, calling them sexist further entrenches them. A big part of that movement is a reaction to being called sexist, racist, etc... All you're doing is playing into their own propaganda. That's why the "weird" moniker was so much more effective.