See this is the stuff I understand people getting irritated about
In the Newcastle arsenal debate VAR experts said the rule is very clear that VAR can't rule a goal out for handball except for the goalscorer.
Is champions league var different? Or they forgot?
This seems waaaaay too long before the goal anyway.
You could, for example, listen to some of the people. Stop looking at stills and look at the video. I know some people are saying Gabriel ducks before the arms make much contact. So the argument is that he was already too low and then exaggerated the minor contact to go down knowing he couldn't get it
There are other explanations but that's the one I've heard most. The stills arsenal fans insist on showing, don't show that of course.
You see you start with IN YOUR OPINION. You're biased to start and then the fact that many professionals say different things should perhaps make you realize your opinion is not universally shared.
When multiple neutral professionals say it's a close call then just maybe your starting position of it's a clear and obvious foul and there's no debating it is perhaps maybe flawed?
This is absolutely right. It feels like three 50/50 decisions all needing to be heads is unlikely. But it's not that because the goal was given three 50/50 decisions that aren't clear is a goal. If it wasn't given a goal you'd need three clear over rules (which wouldn't happen). It's an unconscious bias that if three close calls go one way it's unfair or wrong. But unclear means goal due to the original call.
No dude. They all said red card. The vote is about whether VAR should have intervened. I disagree with the people who say it shouldn't have been used. But that's not the same as saying it wasn't a red card offense.
Don't think I've ever seen such agreement on a decision in a thread tbh