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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 152 points 7 months ago (27 children)

Woooooo... price went up $0.05 to $0.25?

So the only thing preventing fast food joints from paying a living wage was a quarter a burger? 🤔

Dick's is LAUGHING at them:

https://mynorthwest.com/3177050/how-does-dicks-drive-in-pay-workers-19-an-hours/

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 79 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Some may remember several years ago when the jackass head of Papa Johns cried to Fox News, "if I have to give my employees decent health care the price of pizza will go up 10 cents!!" - as if that comment was supporting his argument.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Economics of scale.

The end consumer doesn't give two shits about that small an increase.

But the CEO sees that as $0.10 across a billion dollars gross revenue...

That could be 100 million in profit.

Even tho the money is hypothetical still, he ain't letting go of it.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

It went up $0.00 - $0.25 because the fries stayed the same price.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Don't forget this from a YEAR ago...

Raising Cane's raises average wages to $19.50 an hour — 'The right thing to do'

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/raising-canes-raises-average-wages-to-1950-an-hour--the-right-thing-to-do-155858339.html

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 123 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Man over the last few years prices around me went up way higher than that and nobody got a raise so...

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 50 points 7 months ago (2 children)

A few years ago a dollar would get you a double-cheeseburger at the McDonald's down the street from my office. Now it will get you 30% of a hash brown.

The employees make the same now as they did before.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh shit remember Dollar Menus?

Pretty much every fast food place had a $1 menu for awhile, full of cheap stuff like single cheeseburgers and small fries. You could spend $3-4 and get quite a bit of food for an adult!

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 22 points 7 months ago (7 children)

I remember when I visited the USA as a child in 2000 and handed over $1 for the "$1 cheeseburger" and was told no, it's not a dollar, thats the price excluding tax...

Why the fuck does the sign say $1 if its not $1! 🤦🤦🤦

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[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Absolutely agreed. Wages keep going up yet everyone is struggling. Hell I make a good salary and I'm struggling to scrape by. I was better off in 2019 making a fraction of what I'm making now. Wtf is happening?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

Corporate greed.

[–] force@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

COVID and the result of 4 years of tax cuts for billionaires/corporations catching up to us. It's probably going to continue to get worse while Republicans block congress because, while under Biden they can't really get much done in terms of fucking up wealth taxes even more, their presence also means that we can't really fix it either and it's going to stay broken with the rich getting taxed far too little.

Progressive New Deal tax policies with very good wealth taxes (around 94% for the highest marginal tax rate) are what made the American economy boom during and after WW2, and conservatives took that away from us by cutting their tax rate by over half (Reagan especially fucked it up and made it as low as 30%) and shifting the tax burden to the poor. Now we have a situation where the ultra-rich pay less taxes than the working class and our society is collapsing due to it.

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 115 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Except they were already charging more than enough before the minimum wage increase. People should stop blaming the employees and start looking at the business owners.

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 113 points 7 months ago (4 children)

If the restaurant can’t afford to stay in business because it’s paying enough for its workers to live, then it doesn’t deserve to exist.

[–] antidote101@lemmy.world 76 points 7 months ago

...and if a company can't afford to pay their lowest paid workers a few dollars more when the highest paid CEOs are paid 500 to 1000 times more than them, then maybe the CEOs don't deserve to be paid that much.

Maybe there's a wealth gap in society that doesn't deserve to exist, and that's the real problem.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's funny cause lots (not all) of the small business owners complaining wouldn't have a problem if they worked their own business instead of just hiring someone to do it for them and getting paid a ton to just own it.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

My boss has worked one shift in 23 years. One.

He somehow knows exactly what we’re dealing with.

He hasn’t had to grocery shop for himself since 1989. He still somehow knows exactly what we’re dealing with.

“When I worked in the mines in the late 70s I made less than you make and I bought two corvettes and a boat! Y’all blow your money!”

No, you’re out of touch.

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[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 84 points 7 months ago (12 children)

25% raise cost.... 1-2.5% price increase? I'll stand behind fast food workers any day at that price to my bottom dollar.

Still not buying in and out because of their ludicrous mask double standard, but if anyone brings it to me I'll eat it happily!

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

Why do that when they can keep wages the way they are, claim at 10% increase in costs and pocket everything. Business is easy.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 82 points 7 months ago

They were going to raise prices anyways.

[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 76 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They say this as though restaurants weren't just raising prices anyways.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 36 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A double double was $5.30 in January 2024. Minimum wage was $16.

A double double was apparently $5.65 in March of 2024. Minimum wage was $16.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Its almost as if they just raise prices cause the executive suite wants new endangered animal leather underwear.

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[–] solomon42069@lemmy.world 59 points 7 months ago (4 children)

That "EndWokeness" account always posts the dumbest takes.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 39 points 7 months ago

The poor guy just wants to sleep.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I mean yeah... "End wokeness"

End... The acknowledgement that there has been systemic racism that has affected a population of people that we might better treat our neighbors...?

End... The consideration of people not like yourself and recognize that they face injustices and persecution that we might stop them from being persecuted...?

Yeah... Anyone who wants to end those things and everything else that "woke" stands for is never going to exactly have anything intelligent thing to say.

:(

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[–] JerkyChew@lemmy.one 53 points 7 months ago (4 children)

This is the wrong argument and I'm tired of it. The real argument here is - McDonald's et al don't need to raise prices because of the new wage law. They choose to raise prices rather than cut executive pay, or adjust profit margins, or make any other kind of internal adjustments.

This discussion needs to stop being "x raised prices because they had to and government bad" and start being "Billion-dollar-profit company is screwing over consumers because they can".

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

Even worse, they have empirical proof that they are able to use good ingredients, pay a living wage, provide paid parental leave, and give retirement and medical while having lower prices than they charge here. It's called Denmark.

[–] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

This is like the housing shortage issue, the real issue is not that there are not enough houses and we need to build more, it's that wealthy people need to adjust their hoarding to leave enough for others to have a home.

We know of course wealthy people will not do this voluntarily, so that leaves two options -- we need more good people running for office to displace the psychopathic hoarder class (and people to vote for them, i.e. political reform) or some sort of revolution that eliminates that hoarder class.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 45 points 7 months ago (3 children)

This is an extremely small price to pay for someone being able to live.

I'll happily spend an extra nickel for a shake if it means someone can house and clothe themselves, or a quarter for a burger for the same.

I make decent money (not extravagant, but I'm not exactly struggling at minimum wage), and this is a pittance for what they are getting out of it.

But conservatives, or more accurately, aggressively capitalist people, only see that their prices are going up. They're looking at "how does this affect me " with no consideration of helping their fellow citizen. It only affects them by costing them more for a burger.

Pathetic. Devoid of any empathy.

[–] UnpluggedFridge@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (4 children)

In-N-Out raised their prices post-pandemic without workers getting an increase in pay. The cause and effect here is not credible.

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[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 40 points 7 months ago (3 children)

So a 25% wage increase resulted in price rises of less than 4%. This is such a good trade off that you'd have to be extremely intellectually dishonest to be able to be against it.

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[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Here in Seattle ($20/hr minimum) an hour of minimum wage is enough to buy A Big Mac meal and still have $6 leftover. In BFE Georgia ($7.25 minimum), you would need to work over an hour. Going to say one is better than the other.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago

Padding profits, not covering wages.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Now do Denmark lol.

These price increases were either unrelated (there's a ton of geopolitical reasons the prices of wheat and other food ingredients have risen over the last few years), were purely corporate greed, or perhaps most likely a PR move.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In short, the answer is no. A McDonald's customer will pay approximately the same amount — give or take a dollar or two — for a Big Mac in Denmark as they would for a Big Mac in the United States. In fact, in many cases you'll actually pay less for a Big Mac in Denmark than you would in the United States.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/big-mac-cost-denmark/

Isn't it great having all the knowledge of the internet at your fingertips?

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[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

CA is a state that really tries to shake the scummy republicans out of its politics and sometimes they win. GGCA.

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[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

This is End Wokeness so I suppose that's supposed to be a gotcha? Reminds me of when Fox and CNN were trying to bash Sanders in 2016 but they just kept making him look cooler.

News drone: So what, will you subsidize the health insurance industry then?

Sanders: WE'RE GONNA ELIMINATE THE HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY. EVERY MAJOR COUNTRY ON EARTH HAS....

News drone: Bernie Sanders hates jobs. Next up, should your cat be trained with a firearm? Stay tuned to find out.

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[–] kromem@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I think a lot of people here seem not to be aware In-N-Out has crazy good pay for their employees.

A store manager at In-N-Out makes $160,000 per year.

I don't think they even pay minimum wage for their newest and lowest tiered employees, having always paid at least a few dollars per hour more than minimum.

So it's an exceptionally bad example of a business impacted by a minimum wage increase despite being in the fast food category.

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Coming from Europe. Those prices still look frighteningly low. I knew fast food was cheaper in the US but jeez.

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[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

Corporations have taken all gloves off price gouging every chance they can.

[–] kittehx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 7 months ago

and the fries didn't even go up by a single cent

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

bad angle shot - tons of businesses didn't change their wage at all and had prices go up a lot more than this. how was that also the fault of nebulous 'wokeness'?

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 12 points 7 months ago

5% increase 🤯!!1!

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The funny thing about using In-n-out as an example for this is they were already paying over $20/hour in much of California. The mandatory wage increase would impact them least of all.

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