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Critically acclaimed Dragon's Dogma 2 hits "mostly negative" on Steam after players raze it for microtransactions (www.rockpapershotgun.com)

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 38 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Admittedly, most of the "Mostly Negative" Steam reviews seem to be reacting to the fact they exist at all, without considering whether they're actually critical to your progress in the game or not (for clarity, they are not).

Idk, the fact these mtx exists at all is bad enough precedent that people react repulsively, because it can only get worst from here on.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Prime example are MMORPGs. F2P MMOs pretty much destroyed the whole genre. You can see it in other multiplayer live service games too, because ultimately games end up being tailored around micro transactions. So saying "you can get this and that through gameplay too!" is a non-argument, as you just end up having to grind ridiculous amounts for it. They'll make things harder and harder to get, then maybe add some time limitations to invoke FOMO, and eventually it will be micro transaction only and at ridiculous prices too. But by that time everyone already accepted it anyway because people can't think back for any longer than their last TicTok video.

[–] Zerthax@reddthat.com 4 points 7 months ago

games end up being tailored around micro transactions.

One of the things that is tailored would likely be that the game is locked down to prevent modding. While this may not be as much of a concern for multiplayer games (unless the game allows private servers and such), it is more of a concern for singleplayer.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Sure, but the time to tell Capcom that was 5 years ago. DMC 5 had this kinda dumb shit back in 2019. Their microtransactions are never necessary, and it's honestly confusing why they keep pushing them in every single one of their games, unless it's working. What's even more confusing is why people are so hyper-focused on DD2s microtransactions when this is such a well-known issue among anyone who plays Capcom games. Hate Capcom all you like, but this shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Regardless, if people don't make a stink things won't go back and most likely will get even worse.

So, I say, good on them.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh don't get me wrong, drag Capcom through the coals all you like, I'm just asking for consistency. People should have been just as pissed at it all the other times, the reason it's still here is because it was normalized. It's like everyone is frothing mad because they shot themselves in the foot.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Also, now that I've seen it; these feel a lot more egregious. There are ones for reviving your NPC teammates (once).

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah you get wakestones like candy though, basically every pawn quest at the start rewards wakestone fragments, and most of the pawn quests are just "travel together for a night and a day."

I cannot reiterate this enough times; having played the game for four hours, every microtransaction is pointless. They're a complete waste of money, and I never even had the thought cross my mind that I would need one. All of the items you can pay for are incredible simple to obtain in-game, barring the ferrystones which are kept specifically rare in order to incentivize exploration on foot. Even then, you used to end up with a ton of them in endgame in Dragon's Dogma 1, and I don't expect it to be different for the sequel.

[–] Zerthax@reddthat.com 3 points 7 months ago

Paying money for a game item that is single-use? That's a pass for me.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not everyone buys & plays every Capcom title. Most of them are overly expensive anyway, with overly expensive DLC on top of it.

[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yup, to me for example this is the first time and it's outrageous. Last Capcom game I bought was Resident Evil Village and they had MTX added after I already finished the game. So I didn't pay attention.

[–] Muscar@discuss.online 1 points 7 months ago

Worse*

[–] BoiLudens@lemmy.zip 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They have a dlc for fast travel, and you can’t delete and reset your game save to do a new character

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

you can’t delete and reset your game save to do a new character

Wait, what?

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Even more confusing, the character creator you could download before launch had save slots for five characters? But there aren't at least five save slots for the full game?

Absolutely baffling decision, hoping that a patch for it is coming soon.

[–] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's not baffling; there's a microtransaction for the item that lets you redo your character.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 3 points 7 months ago

Yeah but you don't need it, you can find an item in-game to do it like an hour in. The microtransactions all being pointless is kinda par-for-course in Capcom games, but not having multiple saved game functionality? I cannot even name another game released in the last decade without that feature, including the original Dragon's Dogma!

[–] Kuro@iusearchlinux.fyi 4 points 7 months ago

Maybe they will add save slots as DLC later...

[–] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

GOOD.

Publisher deserves it for this bs.

There is a reason the things being microtran'd are silly too: to try and ease the player into the idea of these being normal and ok. Sure you can get itemX an hour into the game. This time.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

Only legislation will stop this.

Nothing inside a video game should cost real money.

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 3 points 7 months ago

$3 to fast travel? $1 to REVIVE??? No wonder they didn’t have the mtx in review copies

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

People avoiding this shit could outnumber users ten-to-one and it wouldn't make any fucking difference so long as exploiting that audience makes more money than selling normally to everyone else.

The whole reason this problem's getting worse is that it squeezes very few people for a shitload of money. We were never going to shop our way out of it.