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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

loses brain function

can feel pain

X to doubt

[–] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

The person who posted this is a solid example of such a case

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I'm more on this part...

becomes unconscious

I have 9 surgeries in my life and I'm wondering how hollow I am now.

The gold standard to declare brain death is nuclear medicine scan of brain blood circulation. This is done in addition to bedside brain death testing and even EEG if the family wants it all. We fucking KNOW if a patient has cerebral blood flow or not. This person is ridiculously incorrect.

[–] cdf12345@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I hate BS like this. And yes I’m biased because I got a double lung transplant. There are so many myths about organ donation. You basically have to have no brain activity and be stable.

[–] Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That’s awesome. My niece passed away several years ago waiting on lungs to become available (CF). Everyone in the family is an organ donor now. If we’re not using them might as well give someone else a shot.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. Just leave my facial skin for the family, and take the rest if you can use it.

[–] GCanuck@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fuck that. Take the facial skin too. I want my open casket funeral to be memorable.

[–] LeftHandedWave@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That made me laugh! Good one Sir/Madam!

[–] adj16@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What I really don’t get with these sort of theories is: If something as unethical and outlandish as harvesting organs from a healthy, living person were occurring like this, you really think they’re going to look at a little checkbox on your driver’s license and be like “ah dang no permission for evil today, guess this fucker gets to live”

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's the same with SovCits. They think the entire world is a vast conspiracy to generate wealth from their existence and hide it from them, but the people who run the thing can't just ignore their specifically worded letter.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

At least they're half right.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

All this got me thinking if one could turn abortion into organ donation and work around the abortion bans that are picking up across the US

[–] August27th@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

The author knows this is true because that's how their brain got removed. 🙄

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago
[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In a very rigid sense of being composed living tissue, yes - you are alive during organ donation in most cases. In the sense of being a human being or really even an organism... less so.

If I cut off my arm, the tissue would continue to metabolize for a few minutes (?) but I wouldn't exactly argue for its right to vote.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Even arms know you don't take babies from their mother's arms.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Right for arms to bear votes.

[–] indepndnt@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I also vote for this guy's arm.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 1 points 9 months ago

So is there any evidence of that insane claim, or...?

[–] cygon@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The author just didn't think of the right target group :D

This has all the hallmarks of a good "Creepypasta" story. It's based on something real, then inserts just a quantum of bullshit that would turn a good and real thing into a living nightmare.

[–] superfes@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If I'm so injured they're not sure I'll make it, but they can save someone else with my organs, please do that.

Yeesh.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

What is an hour of agony while I’m already suffering and dying to added years of reduced pain to someone who isn’t dying anymore. I don’t know what all I owe my fellow humans, but I know they deserve that.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think it's more like, so injured that you won't make it. If it was a coin flip for someone's survival, then it would be basically murder to take someone's organs.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

The original news article has since been archived, but there was a horrifying case in 2007 where EMS in my hometown arrived at an accident for which they were unprepared because dispatch had mislabeled it as low-speed crash. There were 4 occupants in the vehicle, and, according to the fired EMT's family, the front passenger was so badly injured that pieces of her brain were on the dashboard and she was unresponsive. The ill-equipped team worked to get the other three occupants out of the car and get them to the hospital and ended up assumed that someone on the crew had taken the presumed-dead passenger's pulse.

As a result, a tarp was thrown over her body and she was taken away to the morgue where the coroner eventually discovered that she'd died due to her injuries rather than upon impact. All four of the emergency responders faced disciplinary action and I believe the family of the deceased won a lawsuit against the city.

The bottom line, and to your point, there are very strict guidelines and a lot of red tape before you get to say someone is "close enough to dead" to start carving out their organs.

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Conspiracy theorists never have conspiracy theories against people and things they like lol.

Also, I hope whoever took the screenshot got their food from Uber Eats and the driver didn't fuck them over.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But who hates organ donors? It's a strange kind of insanity.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Religious nutters, for one. They believe that when Christ has his Second Coming he will resurrect everyone who has ever died, but only if all their organs and stuff are intact and in place. So organ donation is just a conspiracy by Satan to keep everyone from being gloriously resurrected.

I honestly wonder what they think their bodies will look like a couple decades after they die. Do they think that, because they were ‘good little Christians’, their bodies will be staying as fresh as when they were interred?

Or maybe their ‘all-powerful’ God can only restore their organs from dust if that dust is in the right spot?

[–] parrhesia@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Ah shit what if you had your gall bladder removed. Or you receive a transplant, do you become like an ogre with two heads

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Only if all their organs are intact? Lol, what about all the people that die in horrific ways that sattere their body parts? guess they get a pass, or too bad so sad, no heaven for you when that earthquake dropped a building in you.

[–] PopMyCop@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 9 months ago

Well, god doesn't like them, obviously. It's why they had a building dropped on top.