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[–] A_Toasty_Strudel@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That'd be great. I've had the game for a week or so, and most of that time has been spent playing other things because H2 is completely and literally unplayable with the current server issues.

[–] arudesalad@lemmy.funnyname.xyz 6 points 9 months ago

If your outside the usa you can probably avoid the peak times on the weekends, that's how I've been getting into the servers

[–] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I had to put it down since last Sunday, as server keep being full after 20:00 each evening since then.

[–] LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works 22 points 9 months ago

The server issues were cute for a couple days following their overwhelming success but I would like to be able to play the game I fucking paid for now please

[–] Gandarf@startrek.website 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Game won't even launch for me. Just a black screen. Maybe this will fix it? otherwise I'm enjoying the Starship Troopers game, in its stead.

[–] Kovukono@pawb.social 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can get past the black screen by deleting the config file in the game's appdata. After that, it'll launch, you'll apply settings, and you'll get stuck on the "Defrosting Helldiver" screen because you can't access a server, and be stuck with a black screen the next time you launch. I'm having so much fun.

[–] Gandarf@startrek.website 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So glad there's a... Work around...? They got 1 week before I refund I guess.

[–] DonjonMaester@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

In the config file under appdata, edit fullscreen flag to false. Its one of the first lines in the file.

[–] CountVon@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you let it sit on the black screen, it will eventually let you in. Or to be exact it will eventually display the intro movie and splash screen, you'll probably see servers at capacity there and after some time there you'll eventually get in. Not exactly sure what it's doing on that black screen, but I'm guessing it's trying to talk to some server that's massively overloaded. I spent most of the weekend playing with friends, so I had to suffer through the wait multiple times.

[–] Gandarf@startrek.website 5 points 9 months ago

Hmm. I don't like the waiting. I have about 1.5hrs of playtime before I can get it refunded with ease. I'll just see what state it's in next weekend and refund if it's still iffy.

[–] ExcursionInversion@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Black screen is the first boss Servers are full screen second boss

Just have to wait for both

[–] arudesalad@lemmy.funnyname.xyz 3 points 9 months ago

I read somewhere that the server issues and the black screen is related

[–] O_i@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s crazy peoples experiences so far, I got to play all week with zero issues, had some issues over the weekend but decided to not queue up to let others join.

[–] CountVon@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

If you look at the Steam player charts for the game you'll see when it's working vs. when it's not. Off-peak it works fine, but right now the player base is ramming up against their temporary player cap for hours at a time on-peak. If you try to connect when there are thousands of others also trying to connect, that's when things go south. That was the case for much of the weekend.

Edit: Here's a chart illustrating what I mean:

In the last 48 hours, player counts hit 400k at about 7pm ~~Eastern~~ UTC and just stayed there for 6-ish hours. That isn't normal, almost all other player count charts show a gradual rise and fall over the course of a day. The devs implemented an artificial cap after they found that their servers bog down when there are too many active players, basically sacrificing the peak time login experience to preserve the in-game experience. If you try to connect while the active player count is pegged, you're essentially joining a swarm of other players who are also trying to connect at the same time. That swarm is likely DOSing some aspect of their own login systems.

[–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A lot of the player count on steam is users AFK idling so they don't have to get stuck in queue again. My discord friend list is a ton of idle users on Helldivers 2 all day and night

[–] CountVon@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah, that's definitely a thing. They need to implement an idle timer. Seems like a low effort feature that would improve the login experience significantly.

[–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I keep watching clips of Helldivers 2 and it looks fun but I don’t understand why I would play it over Deep Rock Galactic, especially when the original Helldivers actually has splitscreen co-op.

So what does this game’s combat bring over Deep Rock Galactic? It seems a lot flatter and less tense.

I really want to see a good YouTube reviewer critically compare them.

[–] baropithecus@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I love all three, but they are quite different in their gameplay. In DRG you choose a class upfront so your role is more defined by this choice, the challenge is mainly about getting your bearings and traversing the terrain, and the mission objectives are (IMO) more involved. In HD2, the challenge is more about surviving against hordes of enemies without killing each other. In DRG, if you shoot somebody you hear a funny voice line, but I don't think I've ever killed a teammate by shooting them. In HD2, this happens all the time.

I don’t understand why I would play it over Deep Rock Galactic, especially when the original Helldivers actually has splitscreen co-op.

I don't see the logical connection here, but you do you. Perhaps worth pointing out, the original Helldivers doesn't have splitscreen but rather shared screen coop -- meaning you can't get separated from your teammates, which is both a feature and a pretty big limitation.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I don't think I've ever killed a teammate by shooting them.

Tell me you don't have the Fatboy OC, without telling me you don't have the Fatboy OC.

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[–] sneezymrmilo@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've played both games and tbh I wouldn't really compare them, I like them both individually. Helldivers 2 is a lot more focused on combat and fighting overwhelming hoards of enemies. On higher difficulties sometimes stealth or just running away is the best solution because of how absurd the number of enemies are. Its honestly really fun just trying (sometimes in vain) to thin out enemy numbers while protecting an objective. That being said, everyone gets access to cool down based, very powerful orbital abilities that do everything from calling down powerful support weapons to dropping a 500kg bomb on a bunch of enemies. At the moment there are 2 different enemy factions that require pretty different playstyles to overcome as well. Honestly pretty dope game, check out SkillUp on YouTube for a good review of the game.

[–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Helldivers 2 is a lot more focused on combat and fighting overwhelming hoards of enemies.

I confused, Deep Rock Galactic is almost entirely focused on fighting overwhelming hoards of enemies. Stealth isn’t an option since they aggro at you which seems like a significant difference though.

[–] Notorious_handholder@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Having played both games, I gotta say while DRG does have hordes, they're not on the same level as HD2. HD2 is the first game in a while that truly has made me feel overwhelmed by the amount of enemies thrown at me and I love it. In HD2 I even find myself doing stealth a lot to sneak past patrols.

Overall though I don't think it's worth it trying to compare DRG to HD2. They might look similar in some aspects. But they are vastly different in gameplay, experience, and mechanics. It's apples to tomatoes, sure they're both technically red fruits, but that's where the similarity ends.

[–] Motorheadbanger@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago

May I introduce you to a custom difficulty mod for drg? 6x2 will absolutely drown you in bugs

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I have played both DRG and HD2. I think you simply have to play HD2 to answer that question. It might not be for you, but having played both games "a lot flatter and less tense" is how I feel about DRG.

[–] avater@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Unplayable right now.

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It is absolutely absurd. There have been a lot of games that aren't polished come out in the last half a decade that got a LOT of flack, but this one cannot be played without a connection to the servers and no one can connect to the servers. I have 15 hours logged and probably 4 of that has actually been playing. The game is by every definition LITERALLY Unplayable.

[–] Tedrow@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But when you are able to play it is great. I don't think it's fair to judge it's gameplay from not beiyablento connect due to sever being full. It's a valid complaint about not being able to log in. That being said, I don't really blame the developers because there was no possible way they could have known their game would have been this big.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I paid for a product I can’t use. That absolutely is part of my fucking review. What the fuck??

[–] Tedrow@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's what I said. It is a valid complaint but not a review of the game itself. It's like wanting to go on a ride at Disney. Does the line suck? Yeah. But is the ride bad? Maybe it's not worth the wait when you paid to get in. But that's why the developers are straight up telling people to not buy the game until they can let more people play.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I expect a wait at Disney. I don’t expect a wait for a pve game. Sorry.

[–] Tedrow@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yup, totally understandable. I'm simply saying it isn't an indictment of the game itself.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

It is an indictment of the game. I’m attempting to play the game I should be able to play and cannot. It ruins and degrades my experience and is very much a part of the game. As the game is launched.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I saw this game earlier and was interested but the rollout seemed pretty fucked so I'm not touching it.

[–] LZamperini@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Off topic. Is the anti cheat as invasive as people make it out to be? I'm no computer wiz but I've stopped playing pvp games with root kits but don't actually know enough. Also anti cheat in a pve game lol.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 1 points 9 months ago

Don't get pulled in by this bullshit. Some game is not worth a rootkit. Take back out hardware.