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[–] anamethatisnt@lemmy.world 129 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Path of Exile, Titan Quest, Grim Dawn, Torchlight 2

[–] toxicbubble@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

this is the definitive list.

path of exile is most popular but has optional mtx(?)

titan quest and Torchlight are on multiple consoles. titan quest has a sequel in production

grim dawn is by the titan quest team, has a small file size, and runs well on older pcs.

[–] glitches_brew@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Does Last Epoch belong on this list too?

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Yes it absolutely does belong! It's officially launching on February 21, but it's currently available in beta/early access.

[–] toxicbubble@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've only heard good things but haven't tried it yet, probably does belong!

[–] glitches_brew@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Ive had a ton of fun playing it!

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Yes! As a die hard Grim Dawn fan I can say Last Epoch is awesome. Grim Dawn is still better imho, but Last Epoch comes close. Both are excellent games one could easily put 100+ hours in and have a blast.

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[–] Nefara@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (11 children)

Torchlight 2 spoiled me for basically the whole genre. It is a classic ~~Roguelike~~ ARPG dungeon crawler but has so many thoughtful player centric quality of life features. Inventory is full but don't want to stop kicking butt? You have a pet that can run back to town for you, sell your stuff, and even buy a "shopping list" of potions and scrolls for you. It'll even run and pick up loot for you. I have trouble playing other games in the genre because I keep running into problems Torchlight 2 solved that I didn't even think about. It also has mods available to add even more or keep things fresh. It's getting old but because of that you can run it on anything. It's a damn good game.

Edit: seems I didn't know what a roguelike was

[–] Vipsu@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Torchlight 1-2 are decent fun for normal playthrough but plagued by bad design decisions and downright silly difficulty spikes on harder difficulties. Mods probably fix many of these issues but in vanilla the build diversity on harder difficulties is quite bad with only handful of viable builds with skill trees full of "trap skills".

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[–] Treefox@lemmy.ml 37 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (6 children)

PoE 2 announced a couple years ago and should be launching soon, pretty much the same stuff on a new engine.

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[–] FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works 30 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Grim Dawn is "What if a sequel to Diablo 2, but not Diablo 3?"

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Oh? I've only actually played 3 so I have no reference to 2 and what the differences are

[–] mindlight@lemm.ee 17 points 8 months ago

Old timer here.... Diablo 2 has a story with an atmosphere that sucks you in. In that sense Diablo 3 was a real disappointment.

Now, if you're going for Diablo 2 it's the remastered version you want. The game is like 20 years old and not made for widescreen so it really feels dated on a modern screen. Also, prepare for isometric pixel graphics.

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[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Grim dawn looks cool aesthetically and I'm liking the UI and how big the skill tree looks. Are any of the expansions any good?

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[–] sneezymrmilo@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Grim Dawn is goated. Not a big ARPG fan but this one just hits different for me. Simple enough for anyone to get into but can get complex enough that min-max theory crafters will have a blast messing with the games systems.

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[–] Ketram@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Definitely I would check out Grim Dawn and Last Epoch.

Grim Dawn is an insanely sprawling game with tons of class combinations and builds, made by the people who made titan quest. The graphics are dated as hell but it never stopped me from loving it. I also find the lore very fun.

Then there is Last Epoch, which is coming out on the 21st. I've been playing it for 3 years, even done some testing for them. Personally some of the more casual friendly things that you can't find (like the crafting actually being amazing, seasons giving content to non-season characters, etc) just are unmatched and give the game a very good flow. It will be out in 1.0 in ~ a week and I definitely think it's worth a glance because I find it is a great middle ground between diablo's dumbed-downness and Path of Exile's sweatiness.

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[–] Vipsu@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Here's a few:

  • Grim Dawn
  • Titan Quest
  • Sacred Series
  • The incredible adventures of Van Helsing
  • Warhammer 40k: Inquisitor - martyr
  • Divine Divinity
  • Torchlight series

Then there's Last Epoch and Path of Exile

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Grim Dawn is probably your best match. PoE is also online only so screw em.

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

Torchlight 1 was an amazing game. Torchlight 2 was an okay game. Torchlight 3 is nothing like the previous two and is really awful.

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Torchlight is Torchlight. You might like it because not Diablo, but Torchlight.

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

I loved Diablo 2 the most, and Torchlight scratches the same itch.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Last Epoch seems to be the most popular recent one. It's currently in early access but it's releasing in a week or so.

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Okay I'm liking the current class selection, still a little sparse but I mean it's early access so whatever. But the reason this game is going in my wishlist is this one image

That looks so fucking cool

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Those fifteen classes are all we're getting for last epoch. Two of them won't be live until launch on February 21 (falconer and warlock), but there's a ton of diversity between those classes.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Last Epoch

It's pretty good, releasing next week.

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[–] squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Last Epoch. It has the best crafting and best skill system of any ARPG IMO.

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[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Path of Exile.

Its 100% free, so you can play it like a demo until you are either fully in or bored.

It gets a season refresh every 3ish months with an entirely new mechanic, so most experienced players restart it 4 times a year, play a new build, and then stop playing when bored and return at the new season so its always got reasons to peek back in and see if you want to rejoin.

The leveling system is a little daunting at first, but the base game is completely playable newbie blind even if you pick "suboptimally" from the skill tree. If youre too worried about FoMo, there are tons of guides online for builds, both top level and newbie friendly.

The attack/skill system is very interesting and completely moddable, tons of replayablility.

If you like diablo, try PoE.

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[–] Defaced@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

Last epoch, path of exile, grim dawn, Torchlight 1,2 and if you want to suffer 3, if you can suffer through Korean p2w nonsense then lost ark, and also titan quest. All of these games are on multiple platforms.

[–] Mautobu@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Truly a man of the people

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Torchlight 2 if you like the gear gathering and optimization.

[–] clericc@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Minecraft Dungeons

yeah, i'll see myself out

[–] 5PACEBAR@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Nah I agree. Minecraft Dungeons has a really approchable aesthetic that hits different. It's an easier sell to my partner. Its cute, and the build complexity and variaty is surprisingly good. Don't sleep on Minecraft Dungeons y'all!

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[–] Haagel@lemmings.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Path of Exile is like Diablo for adults. It's much more dark and intense in my opinion. It's worth checking out because the New Zealanders who make it are genuinely good guys.

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It looks cool, the first one seems to be free as well

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[–] Buttons@programming.dev 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Because you want to avoid Diablo because Diablo, maybe you could get Diablo used on console, you don't need a Blizzard account or an internet connection and since it's used the money wouldn't go to Blizzard. It might be an option, depending on why you want to avoid Diablo.

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[–] Curdie@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Last Epoch scratches that itch real good for me and it's hitting release in a few days.

[–] HoustonHenry@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Here's an RPG that I haven't seen listed yet- Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura. I spent a LOT of hours on this one back in the day (circa 2001, by Sierra-Online and Troika Games)

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[–] registeredusername@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Grim Dawn and DevilutionX. https://github.com/diasurgical/devilutionX

DevilutionX is basically Diablo but opensource

[–] Clasm@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I've had a lot of fun with Book of Demons, which is a bit more simplified, but really respects whatever amount of time I have to put into it!

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[–] Rinn 7 points 8 months ago

Not mentioned yet: Chronicon. A small indie game that doesn't take itself very seriously. It has much less build variety than something like Grim Dawn (obviously) but it's got some, and it's aiming to be a much more streamlined/casual experience. Won't demand as much of your time and attention, will deliver hugely satisfying colorful explosions across the screen. When I'm in the mood for an ARPG it's a toss up whether I'll install this or Grim Dawn.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Torchlight 1 and 2 (diablo 1 and 2 but better)

Path of Exile (diablo the MMO)

Titanquest (my personal favorite non-diablo diablo game)

The Ascent (diablo with guns!)

Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance (D&D diablo on consoles)

Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel (Fallout Diablo on consoles)

And so many more... There was a time in the 90's after the success of Diablo 1 where everyone and their mother was making clones of Diablo.

[–] Slayan@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago

The incredible adventure of van helsing.

[–] Mini_Moonpie@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I love the title of this post. The only arpgs that I don't see mentioned already are Victor Vran, which I think is a lot of fun, and the Warhammer arpgs, I haven't played yet, Chaosbane and Inquisitor Martyr. Inquisitor Martyr is supposed to get a fully offline mode soon and they've patched it to have all the seasons available to play through.

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[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

Titan Quest is on sale for Playstation. $6 which matches its all time low. Thanks for the recommendations.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Since the good ones have been said, allow me to give a niche option; Untold Legends. Grab youself a psp or an emulator and enjoy. It slaps.

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