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  • Russian forces in Ukraine are reportedly using Starlink terminals for internet connectivity.
  • The Ukrainian military claims that the use of Starlink by Russian troops is becoming "systemic".
  • SpaceX, the owner of Starlink, denies selling equipment to the Russian government or military.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 81 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe Elon needs to go to prison for eggregiously violating sanctions. Is that a thing? Can someone get prison time for such a crime?

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 44 points 9 months ago (1 children)

lol, not the rich. If only there were some legal mechanism to freeze his accounts...

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Good thinking. We freeze the accounts of other Russian oligarchs. Why not this one?

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Basically, the US is being held hostage on numerous fronts by Musk. The man influences s so much of American life in including infrastructure as well as critical technology in aerospace, that pissing him off risks massive geopolitical losses for America.

[–] disheveledWallaby@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Nationalize his business and sanction all his assets for aiding and abetting the enemy and working as a foreign agent against the US and our allies. Lock him up or deport his ass to Russia.

[–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Deport him to Russia's new Conservative Camp.. err.. i mean Village

[–] VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Western front

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

the second he moves to russia he falls out a window. I support this plan.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

An egregious federal crime that could relieve him of those powers might be useful in this case.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not stamping him down would pose the bigger risk long term then.

[–] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No rich person has thought of the long term in a while.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 months ago

They’re buying up bunkers and mega yachts invade they need to escape the hoards.

I wonder what the plan is when all their domestic staff revolt though? Working for rich dudes means you know where most/all of their important shit is.

[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 76 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Take away his government contracts, claw back the funds and prosecute him.

[–] ZhaoYadang@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Even better, nationalize it. We don’t have to let Musk keep control of it at all.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

I don't think y'all want to take over that shit show of a company.

It's an unsustainable model

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 63 points 9 months ago

Lmao now the US is actually funding a tool Putin is using against the US.

Trump isn't even elected yet either.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 51 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Musk is the Henry Ford of our time. Helping his pal, the enemy, as far as possible within the bounds of treason laws.

[–] ItsMeSpez@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

"I may have committed some light treason."

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But I thought Elon Musk said that starlink wasn't used by Russia "as far as he knows"?

[–] deadcream@sopuli.xyz 34 points 9 months ago

No, he said that he doesn't sell starlink terminals in Russia. When asked whether Russia uses starlink he declined to answer.

[–] TacoThrash3r@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Nothing like war profiteering

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

But Starlink is not on in the contested areas is it? At least in Crimea.. or did they turn it on now?

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Russian forces are using Starlink terminals on the front line in Ukraine, according to the Ukrainian military, which said the adoption of Elon Musk’s satellite internet service by Moscow’s troops was becoming “systemic”.

In a post on X on Sunday Musk, the company’s chief executive, said: “A number of false news reports claim that SpaceX is selling Starlink terminals to Russia.

Musk provided thousands of Starlink terminals to Ukraine to help it fend off Russian troops soon after their full-scale invasion in February 2022, giving Kyiv’s forces a valuable technological advantage in the form of high-speed internet for communications, targeting and battlefield management software.

However, Kyiv’s praise for the businessman turned to fury when Musk started to limit the operation of Starlink in areas of Ukraine that Russian forces have occupied since 2014, including Crimea.

But introducing or reintroducing so-called “geofencing” to stop Starlink use by Russia on the front line could also affect the Ukrainian military’s devices given the proximity of the two sides’ positions.

A biography of Musk by Walter Isaacson published last autumn detailed how the tycoon refused to allow Starlink to be used by Ukrainian forces for a naval drone strike on Russian ships in Sevastopol.


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[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Weren't they also doing this last year? How is this news? Attention everyone, this guy invented a wheel and you can move things easily with it!

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

De-privatize.. it is currently a privately owned company. It has reached a point where it could be chopped up, some of it goes to MilSatCom the rest to NASA.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

Derp, thanks.

[–] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Nationalize, maybe