Honestly my Windows 10 experience wasn't much different.
Atleast I can actually fix most of the issues that pop up on Linux
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I was struggling to get an OS installed on my cousin's dell at one point. This machine came with that Intel Optane...shit with a spinning rust hard drive, I was replacing it with a straight-up NVMe SSD. Windows would get well into the install process, and then bomb out with an error that was something like 0x123a039f34798cd76eb1 UNDEFINED ERROR. This of course was in the Windows installer, which isn't a functioning desktop environment, so I had to type that manually into my laptop to google it, and got very few results.
I tried Linux Mint, and it apparently had the same problem. It said something like "BIOS Storage config error. Unable to mount file system. It may be that such and such setting is incorrect in the BIOS. See this page for further details." The last sentence was a hyperlink to a wiki that discussed the problem, which opened in Firefox because this installer runs in a live environment, AND IT HAD A QR CODE LINK IN THE ERROR MESSAGE to the same page so you could easily copy the link to an external device. Y'all that was a white glove concierge deep tissue massage of an error message.
…and that was the last time I tried to install windows, or so I imagine the end. :)
No, I installed Windows on the machine I built for her to replace that one. THAT was the last time I've installed Windows on anything.
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All other times, reinstall OS and keep /home/.
I will pretend that i haven't seen that "other" there
Last time I tried Windows (with Windows 10), I actually struggled properly installing my graphics drivers. IDK what the issue even was, but after trying unsuccessfully for a while I just wiped the Windows partition and stuck with Linux.
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And then you suddenly start cooking blue stuff in your mobile kitchen.
It’s funny, but as an adult now… I’m more concerned my ADHD is like this. It’s so annoying. I don’t even mean to do it. I set out to clean my desktop computer files and the next thing I know I’m painting the garage. Oh and ESPECIALLY if something is important. My mind creates these distractions or ‘focuses’ which allow me to fully set my mind on something, as long as it’s to avoid doing something else… 🤦♂️
Yeah last week I found myself thinking "blazeknave what the fuck are you doing?? You're prepping online research, for your meeting in five minutes. How did you end up sorting the linen closet? Fuck you man! "
It's either this or everything works for years literally without a single problem.
I once deployed a small service in 2016. It was a sort of configurable API, that other companies could post information to. Every company’s information came in a different json structure, but I built the thing to be able to accept a new structure, with new configuration data (no new coding needed for new formats).
Then in 2019, I was interviewing for a job and they asked me to talk about something I’d built that was reliable and I was able to report that this little service, running in docker compose, had been up continually for the last two years with zero errors.
I remember installing Uhuntu back in 2012 as middle schooler, and never encountering any error at all.
What distro is buddy using 💀
Gentoo
Void... not my idea though, for the meme I mean, I stole it.
He voided it
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I'm on Debian and that kind of stuff basically doesn't happen. For the first couple weeks I broke stuff every once in a while because I didn't know how Linux worked, but it's basically been smooth sailing on all my computers for about six months.
Contrast with the Windows 10 on the same laptop which just the other day decided it doesn't want to play anymore. I guess I ran an update the last time I touched it (like a month ago) and now it won't boot. Debian boots perfectly. Even in safe mode, I can't boot into Windows and Automatic Startup repair refuses to work even using both the recovery USB and installation media. Probably going to have to reinstall Windows from scratch.
On that note, maybe just remove windows? Thats what I did. Some folks report that „really necessary apps“ would also run on a vm.
I still need that Windows partition for two reasons:
(1). I need Windows because my audio interface uses a proprietary driver only available on Windows. It simply does not perform as quickly on Linux. It's for real-time audio recording and production, so I need absolutely every clock cycle I can possibly spare. For that reason, a VM is out of the question for this particular application. On Linux with JACK, it uses JACK's default USB audio driver, which is really good but not as fast as the custom driver ostensibly using FocusRite's hidden features. It's not Linux's fault, it's FocusRite's for not supporting Linux and mine for "backing the wrong horse" about ten years ago when I bought it. To my knowledge, Linux pro audio was simply nowhere near as developed as it is now. It is only this exact piece of hardware, which I currently cannot afford to replace, that requires me to keep any copies of Windows alive. Other than for similar reasons where users are trapped, Windows sucks as an audio production operating system, whereas Linux with JACK is great.
(2). I need the Windows partition as it is because there is some old but important work there that I need to finish. I wasn't very organized about where I saved my work, i.e. things are all over the place. Eventually, I have to spend several hours moving the project files and effects off the drive. Since these projects were recorded on Windows, I will probably have to move all my Windows-exclusive effects to Linux. Yabridge actually does an excellent job for this, but it's not painless.
I'm currently in grad school for engineering, so I won't have time to bring over my project files until at least the summer. But even then, all the compatibility layers are starting to add up on Linux. The projects I want to work on were nearly maxing out the CPU and RAM on Windows. Really, I need a hardware upgrade, but I can't afford that for a long time.
Well that is understandable and highly unfortunate. I hope you‘ll find a solution for the driver at some point. There are awesome people that can reverse engineer stuff but its still a lot of work.
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That's me running Debian. Or rather...
FrankenDebian.
Must be doing something wrong if this is the everyday experience (especially for production). And there's the ones wanting to experiment, which is a different thing. I guess that's why this is a meme.
LTS and no tinkering are for production. And yes, they will be stable AF.
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I literally didn't even boot Windows for a month and then when I did, I got BSOD on boot, and it gave me some bullshit about not being able to find a device. How's that for maintenance? I can't say I miss it.
Been running Fedora since June of last year, and it's the most "boring" distro I've ever used. It's been rock solid and I haven't experienced a single issue. None! I have an all-AMD build. The funny thing is that I recently installed Ubuntu 23.10 on a different PC, and I managed to break it after a couple of hours 😂
Been using Linux on and off since 2008 (ish).
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This is after the third reboot, and automatic updates were off and I never accepted an update. All I wanted to do was sideload obtanium into the Facebook spy mask and I thought it would be easier than figuring out why it wouldn't show up in adb on Linux.
All I wanted to do was sideload obtanium into the Facebook spy mask and I thought it would be easier than figuring out why it wouldn't show up in adb on Linux.
Those are certainly words.
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This is why I use Arch. I enjoy the tinkering. One day Arch won't be enough and I will have to install Gentoo. You will probably never hear from me ever again after that. Mostly because I will be too busy compiling firefox again after a minor update.
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I just turn on the Ubuntu computer, play games, Clic the occasional button to install updates and then keep doing my stuff. No maintenance stuff needed unless I mess something up on purpose with tinkering.
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I run Arch by the way
Community will crucify me for this, but Linux DE maintenance is the bane of my existence.
Shit "just works" until it inevitably doesn't, and it takes Linus himself to figure out how to unfuck it due to the absolutely insane level of version churn packages & distros see over the years, making most resources short of "just reinstall it" a fools errand.
Servers? Beautiful. Desktop environments? I literally can't anymore... Having something go to shit when I REALLY need to get something done has forced me to always have Windows on hand.
Which has turned into "Windows primary" and "Linux DE secondary " over the years. I hate Windows, I yearn for my plasma desktop, but it's almost always more reliably stable without maintenance for longer in my experience.
/rant
in my case it's the exact reverse, simples things need complex paths to be done on Windows
I don't understand what people are doing to their machines. I've been using Arch Linux exclusively for ~10yrs now and only ONCE had a problem when upgrading Java. That was fixed in about 10mins after reading the Arch update notes.
Most recently I've been running AwesomeWM for 2yrs and it's been so bloody stable and simple. I found KDE just as stable before but a bit heavy for my taste.
Exactly this, I've had the same install of the "most unstable de" -arch btw for about 8 years and its fucking fine, yes sometimes you have to remove some old dependancys... the command line had always told me exactly what's wrong and a quick google later if I'm unsure, blamo it's fixed like new... haven't used Windows in about 10 years
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This is why I run Debian. 😀
paru -Syu
I don't need anything else.
Occasionally running the -Scc flag if your drive isn't huge too I guess
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Pretty sure paru without flags defaults to that, so you don't even need the "-Syu" portion! 👍
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My Fedora Kinoite box is fucking effortless, it updates in the background just needs a reboot from time to time. I have scripted updating the containers that host my home services, I run the script from time to time and it pulls a new container image and recreates the container, updates the systemd services to match the new container ids.
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This is accurate. Getting error codes in coding is like buy one get an additional 100 free
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This can for sure be me when setting stuff up. I'm currently playing around with self-hosting some stuff on my local network, you wouldn't believe the amount of tabs I have open on my desktop, plus on my phone, plus on the laptop I'm using as a server.
This definitely isn't me on a day to day basis though. For the most part, unless I'm actively tinkering, Linux just works.
On the headache-inducing side of things though, I'm currently trying to figure out why I can't run Wordpress over Docker on my laptop. It quickly uses up all resources and even then spits out a "error connecting to database" message when I try to access it.
I don’t use Linux too much, but this matches my experience… I have a raspberry pi 3, running a home automation server.
One day I go to upgrade a plugin for it. It tells me I need to upgrade the home automation server first, so I go do that. It fails because my Node.js install needs to be upgraded too, so I do that. Then, I try to upgrade the home automation server again, but that now fails with a strange error. Stack trace says something about a missing C++ lib in my Node.js install, so I look it up. I try to install the missing library, but it gives more errors. I do more searching and find loads of other people with this issue, my raspbian version can’t support this C++ library version without first being upgraded. Damn, well, it’s midnight and I have work in the morning, I don’t have time for that. I try to get my home automation server up so I can go to bed, but it fails due to problems with the Node.js install. Can’t go to bed without this server running or my smart home accessories don’t work. I try to downgrade to the previous Node.js version. This fails with another error. Couldn’t upgrade, now I can’t downgrade, I’m stuck. I read a thread on GitHub… other people are reinstalling the OS from scratch and starting over. Damn… I start trying to backup my config files so I can do this too. One more check of another post on GitHub and I find some guy shares a command to downgrade Node.js without a fresh OS install. Perfect! I run this, restart my home automation server, and go to bed. Maybe I’ll try to figure out this problem another day.
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Type yay hit enter.. Sometimes reboot, sometimes just suspend... Its all pretty wild
I just turn on my computer and it works, sometimes I have to answer a couple questions zypper asks me when updates do weird things and cause dependency issues but that's not difficult
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