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[–] OneCardboardBox@lemmy.sdf.org 200 points 9 months ago (12 children)

Sorry, what's .Net again?

The runtime? You mean .Net, or .Net Core, or .Net Framework? Oh, you mean a web framework in .Net. Was that Asp.Net or AspNetcore?

Remind me why we let the "Can't call it Windows 9" company design our enterprise language?

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 9 months ago (12 children)

Can't call it Windows 9

But that actually made sense! They care about backwards compatibility.

For those not in the know: some legacy software checked if the OS name began with "Windows 9" to differentiate between 95 and future versions.

[–] puttputt@beehaw.org 15 points 9 months ago

The reason they checked that it started with "Windows 9" was because it worked for "Windows 95" and "Windows 98"

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

An often repeated urban legend that has no basis in reality. Software checking the version of Windows gets "6.1" for Windows 7 and "6.2" for Windows 8. The marketing name doesn't matter and is different.

[–] activ8r@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It makes sense why they did it, but their messed up versioning was the cause to begin with. You should always assume Devs will cut corners in inappropriate ways.

[–] pkill@programming.dev 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They'll cut corners the more the shittier APIs and ABIs you provide

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[–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

some legacy software checked if the OS name began with "Windows 9" to differentiate between 95 and future versions.

This is a myth. Windows doesn't even have an API to give you the marketing name of the OS. Internally, Windows 95 is version 4.0 and Windows 98 is 4.1. The API to get the version returns the major and minor version separately, so to check for Windows 95 you'd check if majorVersion = 4 and minorVersion = 0.

Edit: This is the return type from the API: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/winnt/ns-winnt-osversioninfoexa

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[–] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

And for the same reason they went straight from ~~2.1~~ 3.x to 5.0 when they renamed .Net Core to just .Net. Versions ~~3.x and~~ 4.x would have been too easy to confuse (either manually or programmatically) with the old .Net Framework versions that were still in use, especially for Desktop applications.

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[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

.net core is not a thing anymore in case somebody it's not aware, now is just .net. (unless you use really old version of course).

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] activ8r@sh.itjust.works 13 points 9 months ago

Because they have dozens of years of experience! They didn't learn anything from it, but they have it!

[–] Pfnic@feddit.ch 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have the same issue with Java. Oracle JDK, Open JDK or some other weird distribution? Enteprise Servers or a Framework like Springboot? It's always easier if you're familiar with the technology.

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[–] neutron@thelemmy.club 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I scream silently everytime.

[–] coloredgrayscale@programming.dev 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

May I introduce you to Usb 3.x renaming?

3.0, 3.1Gen1, 3.2Gen1, 3.2Gen1x1 are the 5Gbps version.

3.1Gen2, 3.2Gen2, 3.2Gen1x2, 3.2Gen2x1 are the 10Gbps version.

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[–] kogasa@programming.dev 8 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I really don't think it's that bad. The only weird thing is .NET Core becoming just .NET in version 5.

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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 136 points 9 months ago

No, you'll need to contact Kim Dotcom. I am merely Kim Dotnet.

[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 89 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Ok, but we all should admit: .net is a terrible name.

[–] neutron@thelemmy.club 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And then there's .net classic and .net core. Making up two entirely separate names shouldn't be difficult for marketing executives.

[–] dan@upvote.au 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

.NET Core doesn't exist any more. It's just .NET now. I think that changed around the release of .NET 5?

The classic version is mostly legacy at this point too.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Just because it's no longer supported doesn't mean there's not some poor intern refactoring spaghetti backend in a basement somewhere using it.

[–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 9 months ago

Sure, but you can still find plenty of info on it by searching for .NET Framework or .NET 4.6. All the documentation is still available. Its just not in the spotlight any more.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 18 points 9 months ago

Still better than .dot

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I totally agree.socialmedia

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 72 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I can, but due to the extra strains involved the price of this contract will increase.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

How many strains does it take to develop using .net? Are we talking high end or ditch weed?

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 63 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I can't even remember what dumb shit Trump was showing this guy.

[–] nelly_man@lemmy.world 67 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

It was an interview with Jonathan Swan about COVID-19 where Trump had a bunch of papers with graphs trying to show that the US was doing well with cases. The paper he handed over showed the rates of deaths per case (though Trump didn't seem to understand the graph), and Swan was asking him about the high rate of deaths in the US when looking at the total population of the country.

https://youtu.be/NmrEfQG6pIg

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Man, if the media was worth a damn it could absolutely bury Trump in negative campaign ads. It's one thing to run a single valid negative campaign ad. With Trump you could collect them like fucking pokemon.

[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You'd need over 30x the amount of total pokemon to match the amount of lies he's told as president

[–] getoffthedrugsdude@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

That's a lotta pokémon

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[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Did this video go unavailable in half an hour or is it region locked?

Mirror (Piped)

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks!

Holy shit! That Swan guy is a fucking legend. I've never seen Trump get that hounded by a journalist before!! He needs to et this more often. Why the fuck aren't more people pressuring him with questions like this?

[–] icydefiance@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why the fuck aren’t more people pressuring him with questions like this?

Because they'll never get another interview with him, or most other Republican politicians. It's a pathetic reason, but that's all it takes.

[–] RozhkiNozhki@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Remember how he abolished press briefings at the White house because Sarah Sanders couldn't and didn't want to answer questions from those pesky journalists?

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

RE: your URL edit

You manually type URLs?! :D

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[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I can but we’ll need to re negotiate my salary.

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

But we’re an EDU!!!!

[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 5 points 9 months ago

Can you spot the error? Johnson went to the trump organization for a professional field.

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Well .NET is dead now so I guess .COM and .ORG are dead too?

[–] quackers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 9 months ago

.NET is better than ever wdym

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[–] ursakhiin@beehaw.org 4 points 9 months ago

It's been my experience that the .NET developer will miss the actual statement and take it as an assault on .NET being the best solution for every use case.

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