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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Thevenin@beehaw.org 54 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I will say this about Biden: the dude's downright sneaky. It seems to be his administration's main strategy to publicly walk back a major agenda point, let right-wingers celebrate, and then after the media hype (and potential for right-wing backlash) dies out, quietly split it up into smaller programs that get pushed further than the original agenda ever could.

So yeah, it seems on-brand that the Biden administration would push for LNG exports after Russia's invasion of Ukraine, and then go back later and curtail them instead.

[–] ericjmorey@beehaw.org 7 points 9 months ago

Thank you for this comment

[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 4 points 9 months ago

This should be pinned at the top of every thread mentioning Biden until the second week of November.

[–] ira@lemmy.ml 51 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

A great start! We're going to need to see way more of this to reverse the massive increase of natural gas production since Feb 2021 (2.6 trillion cubic ft / month then vs 3.5 trillion now, a 34% increase in less than 3 years and an all-time high for the US)

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago

Yes, but a lot of it goes to the EU and they lost Russias supply. Similar story with oil. There are massive OPEC+ cuts and the US fills the void.

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[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago (2 children)

No wonder they all fucking hate him.

But I guess "both sides" are the same and represent the "status quo", right?

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[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

How do you like me? How do you like me? ~~

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 4 points 9 months ago

Mo'! Mo'! Mo'!

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I think I gonna bomb a town, get down!

[–] BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Joe Bi the Science Guy

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Hopefully the trend continues after re-election and this isn’t just a stunt to secure votes.

[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

His administration has overseen the highest domestic oil production of all time, and they've bragged about that... So it is a bit sus

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

at least until after the election

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 41 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Yes, yes, we know... All politicians are corrupt and bad, both sides are the same, don't vote, everything sucks, nothing matters, etc.

Or you could have just the tiniest bit of hope and diligence to improve the world...

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

"It's not perfect, therefore it's useless, and because it is, I'm going to vote for the worse alternative. Don't make me explain my reasoning further."

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The idea that all politicians are corrupt and conniving bastards is mainly a right-wing fiction. They assume everybody acts exactly like they themselves do

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 10 points 9 months ago

That, and if you're not on their side, they want you to be screwed out of your vote and rights, or apathetic because you feel it is all hopeless.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

After the election it'll still be record level drilling, just like there is now.

The record will just be higher

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

You say that like most Americans wouldn't support doing literally anything that would lower gas prices. The problem is trying to make everyone happy.

I mean, most people I know bring up gas prices before they bring up climate change, if at all. I try to remind these people that while the president/Congress can take actions to increase drilling there are many of us in the US that would prefer they didn't.

I usually then make it clear how obviously easy it is for me to say that as someone that works from home and isn't as impacted by gas prices; context is always important.

[–] nikaaa@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

related: https://lemmy.world/post/15990629

TL;DR: New fossil fuel permits are no longer needed, and they should no longer be warranted.

Edit: Apparently this article is about export permits, while my link is about production permits.

[–] eltimablo@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Natural gas is produced as a byproduct of gasoline production. He hasn't done shit besides screw us out of access to a cleaner energy source we're already producing.

[–] Jondar@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Natural gas comes out of the ground naturally, and isn't necessarily a by-product of gasoline refinement. I can't speak from experience on the refinery side of things, but I can speak from experience on the upstream production side of things. The natural gas we use for power generation, and heat at the facility I work at essentially comes straight out of the ground with minimal processing. Any excess is put back in the ground. That's specific to where I work. I imagine other places, the gas is separated out like we do and sent to "the market."

[–] eltimablo@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Huh, TIL you can put it back in the ground. I was under the impression it had to be burned off.

[–] Jondar@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Yep! There are two types of oil wells, producers and injectors. Producers produce raw production fluids and gas. Those production fluids/gases need to go through a 3-phase separate vessel to separate the oil, water, and gas. The water and gas is sent back into the ground with the injection wells. The reason for this is to maintain the pressure of the reservoir underground, and to dispose of the fluids/gases.

Some amount of gas is flared (burned) off from the separation facility, and also from refineries. The purpose of the flare is for process safety. If there's an overpressure event, or an equipment shutdown, all the gas production from the field needs to go somewhere while the production wells are shutdown. For that time period, any gas is burned off to prevent a catastrophic failure in the facility.

The amount of gas being flared is monitored and regulated, and any flare event is recorded and reported to the appropriate agencies, generally the EPA, and Relevant state agencies.

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