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Lefty Memes

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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

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That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


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[–] passntrash@midwest.social 124 points 9 months ago (27 children)

While I doubt this actually happened, I'm still disturbed by everyone cheering it on absent any context that would make OP not look like a petulant child.

Quitting without notice doesn't require justification, fuck the bosses, whatever.

But for all we know, this manager had bent over backwards to stand up for their employees, or cover for them. Maybe this employee took advantage of that and was miserable to his coworkers. Those are just as likely as anything else, given that no further information was provided.

At least invent a backstory how this manager was dogshit or abusive, or the company was awful. Make us want to believe that you're not just someone with a persecution complex who's quick to anger and lash out.

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'd be more inclined to see your point, except that the manager in question said "each job requires 2 weeks notice" like he was indignant that he didn't get something he deserved.

That's not only not true at all, it's active manipulation on their part in a hail Mary attempt to have their work covered for enough time to look for another employee.

It may be unprofessional to quit without notice, but it's really unprofessional to present the act of quitting as requiring 2 weeks' notice, particularly in a place that might also allow the employer to fire someone for any reason at any time with no notice.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

it's really unprofessional to present the act of quitting as requiring 2 weeks' notice

If it's part of the contract then it's not unprofessional at all to bring up the terms that you've agreed on. My job requires a month's notice and it wouldn't be unprofessional for my employer to bring that up if I tried to quit on the spot.

That being said, I don't live in a place with "at-will employment", which is a fucking travesty and should never have been allowed in the first place.

[–] Rev3rze@feddit.nl 16 points 9 months ago (9 children)

I'm not from the US but I always assumed "at-will employment" works both ways. You're telling me it doesn't?

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[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)
  1. It's a meme, all that backstory wouldn't fit
  2. You're saying it's silly to assume/make up the backstory of the employee, yet you dedicated a whole paragraph making up a backstory for the boss
  3. It's a meme my guy, in a community titled Lefty Memes, what do you expect?
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[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (5 children)

If you doubt this actually happened clearly you've never worked in customer service/ food service

[–] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I’ve spent my life in customer service/retail sales/food service and I doubt this actually happened.

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[–] passntrash@midwest.social 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

How many Lemmy users do you think have never worked retail customer facing jobs, or food service? I'm betting it's a minority, but I could be wrong.

Either way, whatever internal compass you use to determine another user's job history needs some tuning because I've worked in plenty of service industry jobs.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 94 points 9 months ago (9 children)

If they’ll fire us with no notice, we should quit with no notice.

[–] june@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The only reason to give notice is if there are benefits to giving notice, like having banked PTO paid out or something (if you’re in a state where it’s not required to be paid out). Otherwise, absolutely call the morning of and let them know you quit.

[–] acceptable_pumpkin@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago (3 children)

That may not be the best advice. Depends on your industry, but burning a bridge so quickly may hurt you in the future. I’ve had former coworkers and other managers help me get my foot in the door for another job.

Besides, there’s something cathartic about knowing the end is right there and still getting paid for it.

[–] june@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Yea, I should have been explicit for the caveat being that it’s not a job you need as a reference or anything. If you’re in retail, they don’t give a shit about past jobs, just that you’re a body now. If your current retail gig is toxic, that’s when to pull this shit out.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 9 months ago

Take the notice period required when quitting and mandate they pay you that much extra when they fire you.

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[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 9 months ago (3 children)

No notice for 20,000 layoffs? Oops, 2 weeks from... uh, 2 weeks ago.

The key is to dip after changing the password on the vital database they decided one person was enough to manage ;)

[–] excitingburp@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

In the US there is no notice period for firing in "at-will" states (which is all except Montana). It goes both directions though, there is no notice period when quitting. So chances are, if the OP is in the US, the boss was full of it.

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Believe it or not, nobody can make you work if you said you're done.

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[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 9 points 9 months ago (4 children)

It can be unprofessional without being illegal.

2 weeks notice is a pretty much universal standard when quitting. Layoffs usually gives with severance pay, so unless you pay severance to the employer when quitting, giving a courtesy of possible doesn't seem like a lot to ask.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

It's as professional as no notice layoffs are. It's a two way street.

[–] zourn@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

But severance pay is almost always part of consideration in a "you can't sue us" contract. So the company is not just giving you pay in lieu of notice, they're buying your rights away.

I've also seen plenty of corporations that punish you when you give two weeks notice by immediately barring you from working and you end up losing two weeks pay by planning on being considerate.

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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 46 points 9 months ago (4 children)

We need to push for more protections like required notice and/or undermine at-will employment in various ways. I'm sick of corps having us over a barrel in every way.

[–] Vash63@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I live in the Netherlands which has much stronger workplace protections than USA (which I'm assuming this image is from). It's still normal and maybe required to give notice, usually 30 days, but they also can't fire you without cause and severance.

Notices are logical from a business perspective, they just should be extended both ways.

[–] The_one_and_only@feddit.nl 12 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I also live in the Netherlands, and because I have worked at my current job quite long already, they have a notice-period of 4 months when they want to fire me, and I have 1 month notice-period when I want to quit.

To be really honest, that is almost absurd for the employer.

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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"BTW sorry for my last text... But could you please write me a recommendation for my CV?"

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Lot of people didn't read the community title before commenting lol.

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[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 14 points 9 months ago

As someone that might or might not have engaged in that sort of bold move cotton exit strategies literally mirroring the behavior I had repeatedly received from my corporate overlords let me say that it feels good on the way up.

On the way up.

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