politics

We've been saying conservatives will be marginalized soon since the 90's. I really hope it happens in my lifetime. The infestation has only gotten worse.

still think

This is where you went wrong - they don't "think" that, as in they sat down and logically reasoned it out, they "know" that, as in they were told it from a pastor behind a pulpit, who they pay part of their salary to. If they thought it then they could be convinced by the presentation of facts to now think differently, but since their belief comes from authority, there is really no way around that kind of brainwashing. That I know of at least, in anything like a mere few years.

I honestly don't know if our democracy will survive this challenge. What country has ever survived after devolving into a mere two party system, such that neither side does anything except try to block the other one? (That's a legit question btw, if anyone knows the answer)

I think we’ll be safe (as in, demographics will make it not viable for them to remain a political party) by 2030

If it were not for gerrymandering and several other kinds of election tampering, that would have happened at least a decade ago.

As it is, they're still clawing away at democracy to such a degree (and meeting so little resistance other than empty words for the press from the only ones with the power to stop them) that they're likely to remain competitive indefinitely unless something changes dramatically.

the next two presidential elections are gonna be a fucking nightmare.

Sadly, it's much more likely that every presidential election for the rest of my life will and I'm "only" 41.

It is a viable strategy as long as you don't depend on actually winning elections.

2030 is too far away and i think that's naive. we need them gone now. you don't understand how ingrained conservative thinking is in rural areas. they aren't going away. they're making new ones every day.

Because it was. It was a great wedge to capture religious types and people who were vaguely "in favor of not killing babies" but didn't comprehend the reality of abortion bans. Now that they actually killed roe and we're seeing the devastating impact, they can't tout it as a success. And since roe is already dead, they can't use it as a wedge to activate voters. So it goes away.

As if it’s just another political stratagem that went a little awry.

that's all it ever was to them. they don't believe in anything other than their own power.

Conservative women. They love to pretend they are pro life. Until their own ectopic pregnancy...

Values that are loudly stated mean something more than if we just know someone holds certain values. If we flip the script for example, and consider a democrat who has generally been pro-choice, Vs a generally pro choice democrat who campaigns on making pro-choice law so that the roe Vs wade repeal cannot stand. I'd be much more likely to vote for the latter candidate, largely because this stance will put off people who are anti-abortion.

I really can't wait for Trump to lose and then continue to insist that he will keep running for president until his dying breath, continuing to hold the party hostage for at least several more years.

It's not the only way. It's just the current way that allows everyone to take as little risk as possible.

As always, when they tell you who they are, believe them. When they profess change, make them prove it.

Seems quiet to me, in a metaphorical sense, if they delete something from PR page which they previously considered important enough to have as a campaign position, but without articulating a new position. They are obscuring their position.

It's emphasizing that they would prefer people not find out about it, which is different to regular deleting.

You can hate it if you want, I guess, but isn't that what they are doing? They know the polls are against them so they are flip flopping, to use Repub terms, but doing so in a cowardly fashion hoping no one will notice. But we've all noticed.

How would you frame these types of stories?