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[–] comrade19@lemmy.world 104 points 9 months ago (3 children)

After quitting i feel like im missing out on nothing. I sail the seas if i actually need anything, and it probably wasn't on netflix anyway

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago

I never had Netflix. Or any streaming subscription. I considered it once, several years ago, but I couldn't justify it at prices then, and I sure as shit won't waste my money now. I'll help them save their bandwidth.

[–] harry_balzac@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I had Netflix and Hulu about 10 years ago and it was worth it. Then I dropped Netflix and got Prime. Dropped Prime and Hulu then did Disney+ bundle...that was good but now I sail the seas with friends. So much better. So many movies and shows I would have missed out on.

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[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 78 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Kinda shitty of the chart creator to leave out 2018 and 2021. While the point still stands, it biases it against Netflix.

It’s just purposefully misleading. Not cool, chart maker dude. Not cool.

[–] yum13241@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is not even a correct chart.

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[–] Rev3rze@feddit.nl 13 points 9 months ago (4 children)

What happened in those years and why were they omitted? It's odd that they just leave it out with (as far as I could tell from the linked source) no explanation for that.

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[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 73 points 9 months ago (18 children)

For a streaming platform to be actually useful it needs to be a almost monopoly like steam. Netflix had a chance but missed the spot, due to the greed of Studios. So it's back to fractured marked until someone comes with a fresh idea of how to distribute video.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, it doesnt have to be. Look at Spotify vs Apple Music, vs tidal etc. full catalogues at all of them. It’s the business model that needs to change.

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[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (3 children)

TBH Steam feels like a ticking timebomb. At some point Valve is going to get a new shite CEO or something and everyone will go "oh..."

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If Gabe cares, he will make a foundation or something.

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 10 points 9 months ago

If Gabe cares he likely already handed leadership over to allow for an interim period where he could step in and Veto any decisions he thinks are crap

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Little unfair to say they "missed" anything when they can't control what studios do with their licenses.

I still see people occasionally complain that Netflix "got rid" of stuff, like the Office. There's a lot of shitty things you can blame Netflix for, but that isn't one of them.

It's also not new. HBO, Showtime, Stars, etc all had rotating on-demand catalogs for years before Netflix, with content appearing briefly before being removed, and no one thought that was odd. I never once heard anyone suggest HBO was shit because Austin Powers or whatever was taken off it. It came with the understanding this content was not permanently available.

Part of it is that people had a bad understanding of what Netflix was, and assumed it would be a permanent replacement for a personal collection. That was always a foolish mindset.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 9 points 9 months ago

Little unfair to say they “missed” anything when they can’t control what studios do with their licenses.

Little unfair of your to leave out:

due to the greed of Studios

Wich makes clear, I don't blame netflix.

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[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.de 61 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Their subscriber rate goes up anyway, so they dont care.

Most of the people are to lazy or dont care enough to vote with their wallet unfortunately

[–] Barsukis@lemmy.ml 25 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Yep. I used to share my account with my family before Netflix's password sharing crackdown. When they did it, I deleted my account day 1.

My dad and my sister just resubscribed separately. Unfortunately, a net win for them. Efectively +1 user. Just one example, but I'm betting this worked for many more of their users.

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[–] Steve@communick.news 58 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Why is 2018 and 2021 skipped over?

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 68 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you really think these years existed?

[–] Steve@communick.news 18 points 9 months ago

Granted, my memory isn't great. But I think so. Maybe? I'm not sure any more.

[–] Jako301@feddit.de 27 points 9 months ago

They didn't fit the agenda so they had to be removed.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 46 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Price increase alone isn't enshittification. But the amount and quality of what they offer is dropping at the same time.

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[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 41 points 9 months ago (7 children)

And their catalog is actually super small now. My wife and I watch a bunch of horror movies, and I think there's only like 20. They try to pad that number by pretending that foreign films are actually in English.

[–] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 27 points 9 months ago (7 children)

And their recommendation engine sucks.

Netflix used to be famously good at suggesting films. Articles were written about it, and there was even a cash reward for anyone who could contribute to its performance. Then it just turned to shit.

And the funny thing is that it would have helped counteract the shrinking library. Sure, there would be fewer films on the platform, so you'd be less likely to find a specific title, but at least you could select a film Netflix recommended based on your past ratings and be fairly confident you'd enjoy it. Now? Absolutely not.

[–] forvirreth@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (6 children)

My bachelors thesis was basically about recommender systems like this. Netflix truly is a sunken ship.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 20 points 9 months ago (3 children)

And they change the pictures around all the time to make you think it's something new, when in fact you've seen it before. And because it's bland as all fuck, you notice this like 45 minutes in.

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[–] fruity@lemm.ee 28 points 9 months ago (11 children)

And yet, they got 13 million new subscribers last 3 months

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[–] kworpy@lemm.ee 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Can't enshittificate our torrent clients 🤷

[–] EvilLootbox@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

µTorrent would like a word

[–] kworpy@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Who still uses that garbage? qBittorent is the same thing except theres no adware or spyware.

[–] EvilLootbox@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

qBittorrent is great

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 9 months ago

standard stayed the same price for a whole year so i guess that it's due for a price hike

[–] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

I wouldn't subscribe to Netflix if it saved their families from cancer. Stop fucking increasing your prices while you decrease service.

[–] J12@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

I think I’m going to buy one of those sketchy streaming boxes with thousands of channels.

That or learn how to download and host my own content.

Anyone have any thoughts or ideas?

Edit: just realized what sub I’m in. Guess I better start reading up.

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[–] stown@sedd.it 16 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I get that "enshitification" is the hot new buzzword but cold we please give it a rest. Reading this community you start to think that people can't express that the Internet is not to their liking in any other way.

[–] patatahooligan@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"Enshitification" does not mean "I don't like it". It is specifically about platforms that start out looking too good to be true and turn to shit when the user base is locked in. The term is generally used for cases where the decline in quality was pre-planned and not due to external factors. Using the same term each time is, in my opinion, an appropriate way to point out just how common this pattern is.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think Dr CD outlined a specific arc that companies follow, but the term has been co-opted to mean any process that drives out competition before turning the screws on their customers. Did Netflix follow the three steps?

Netflix was certainly good to its subscribers 15 years ago.

Were they then good to their business customers (studios) at the cost of the users? I don't think they were ever good to studios.

Have they now clawed back surpluses for themselves? Abso-fuckin-lutely.

I think step 2 is the key to the original definition, and the one commenters often ignore. All companies burn cash to get started. All companies try to become a monopoly, and monetize everything once they do.

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[–] survivalmachine@beehaw.org 14 points 9 months ago

You're in the piracy sub. A large part of the conversation is going to be about the late-stage capitalism that is driving us to piracy.

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

"Enshitification" means a service getting worse in order to charge their customers extra for a service similar to their previously good one. If we're using the word too much, it's because it's happening too much.

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[–] uis@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 9 points 9 months ago

No. That is the word. It's not a buzzword. It's a statement.

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[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 13 points 9 months ago (23 children)

After seeing this post a couple times (which speaks to its relevance) it got me thinking that enshittification (of the world) will definitely continue until our morale improves, as in until we make them stop. Are there any online collectives that work together to stop this tomfoolery?

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[–] AsepticFuturisticFox@beehaw.org 10 points 9 months ago

Do you have a source?

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