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[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 123 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It's a flower that makes people happy and hungry. God fucking damn it. There is no fucking reason to destroy people's lives over this.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 63 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Two reason: Conservatism and Christianity.

[–] HessiaNerd@lemmy.world 58 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't even think that article adequately conveys how thoroughly racist the roots of it is. They don't even quote the awful things Anslinger said to justify cannabis prohibition.

“There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others.”

“…the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races.”

“Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death.”

“Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men.”

“Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing”

“You smoke a joint and you’re likely to kill your brother.”

“Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind.”

https://fee.org/articles/the-racist-roots-of-marijuana-prohibition/

 

And then there's this from Nixon staffer John Ehrlichman:

“The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people,” former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman told Harper’s writer Dan Baum for the April cover story published Tuesday.

“You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities,” Ehrlichman said. “We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/index.html

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Nobody has ever been able to explain to me how cannabis use is incompatible with Christianity in any way.

But then again, I don't expect Christians to be consistent or logical about anything.

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Reminds me of the Ballarat Bandit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-gBErW4aoY

To put it short, he was a guy who led federal officers on a chase through the desert. They didn't know who he was, but he was stealing from travelers passing through. It wasn't far from some US government facilities, and this being not long after 9/11, they're super worried he's a terrorist.

Spoiler: he was a Canadian who started growing weed to help his wife's medical issues. He apparently made some primo bud and started selling it. Naturally, he got caught and was thrown in jail. When he got out, he moved out to the desert and tried to survive on his own.

Jail changed him. He became more paranoid and detached from his family, friends, and society. He wasn't the least bit dangerous until they threw him in prison.

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[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

There's one very good reason, according to authoritarians: slave labor. 'Murica.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 121 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I don’t understand how 40 years of prison for a non-violent crime isn’t considered to be both “cruel” and “unusual”. It is objectively cruel. I certainly hope that it is also unusual. I certainly hope that there aren’t many more like him, imprisoned for decades for what amounts to personal-use levels of pot. 5.5 lbs of pot when you include the stem and roots isn’t that much and certainly sounds like a personal supply to me.

[–] marxistsynths19@lemmy.ml 66 points 9 months ago (2 children)

These people are kept in jail to be used in labor. It’s not about being cruel. It’s about making money in the cheapest way possible. Since Alabama is a hellhole with no workforce they turn to modern day slavery.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Oh it's both. It's definitely both, the cruelty and the slave labor, which is cruel in and of itself as well.

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[–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 18 points 9 months ago (10 children)

It is the most cruel people in the world that hide behind a law book and the pretense of being fair and worse even: past cases.

But since you first have to study for a decade, then kiss ass for a decade or two before even beginning to qualify for 'JUDGE' it is not more as normal you will have lost ALL BONDS WITH REGULAR SOCIETY.

If you think 15$+tax+tip is fine for a glass of wine with lunch on a daily basis; you are NOTTTTTTT qualified to speak for the benefit of society : in contrary!

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[–] iamericandre@lemmy.world 116 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Fuck Alabama and its bullshit ass laws

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Alabama actually has medical cannabis now, maybe soon?

[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

Alabama has plenty of problems outside of being able to smoke weed or not

For example choosing to imprison older people to what is effectively a life sentence for a non violent charge

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[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 107 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Life sentence for growing some pot. Meanwhile the Jan 6th insurrectionists are getting maybe 2 years, or if you're a card carrying proud boy terrorist you might be looking at up to 20 years.

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 61 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Some guy beat someone so bad they need 24hr supervision, and he got 7 years. Cops get of with paid vacation for shooting or running over: dogs, unarmed adults and children, flash bang babies, drunk driving, beating their SO, planting drugs on innocent people. Did I miss anything?

War on drugs, no, it's a war on personal freedoms.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

There are actual recordings from the Nixon Whitehouse where they decided that since they could no longer legally discriminate against people based on race, they'd have to find another way and drugs was it.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's not even just a war on personal freedoms. It's a war on anyone the people running the system don't like. The US has been at war with its own citizens longer than I've been alive.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 100 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Try to overthrow the government- 18 months. Grow plants- life sentence.

America (for the time being), fuck yeah!

[–] Netrunner@programming.dev 10 points 9 months ago

Leading the insurrection? Priceless.

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[–] appel@lemmy.ml 77 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This stuff just makes my blood boil. Those 3 assholes on the parole board are complete sociopaths. There's absolutely no justice here.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 33 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Someday we'll learn that these types of positions are only ever occupied by sociopaths, psychopaths, sadists, and those full of hate. Then we'll realize that the institutions they are part of were designed by the same type of people. Then hopefully finally we'll realize that every state institution was designed by this same group that believes they know the right way for everything and feel entitled to force their ways on everyone else.

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[–] stoly@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's actually a requirement I think.

In WA during lockdown, they requested compassionate release of someone who was paralyzed on half his body and confined to a chair. The DOC decided that he was a threat to society and needed to be kept in the COVID greenhouse.

[–] BlackNo1@lemmy.world 45 points 9 months ago

usa fucking sucksssss especially the south

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago

shitty country to live in

[–] m13@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago

The United States is a fascist hellhole.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Alabama has an incredible climate for growing outdoor Cannabis, too...

It should literally be everywhere there.

[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

a friend in highschool used to collect all the seeds and scatter them around town. de-seeding was part of the low-grade weed ritual. seeds would explode and blow-up your joints or bowls

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[–] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

Remember come election time who is responsible for this. Just like actions, elections have consequences.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 23 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The age of consent in Alabama is 16.

Let's not act like we were expecting much from alabama.

[–] bufordt@sh.itjust.works 38 points 9 months ago (7 children)

It's 16 in Minnesota and 17 in New York, but 18 in North Dakota. Let's not act like a higher age of consent is directly tied to progressive policies.

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[–] Globeparasite@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] ApostleO@startrek.website 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Didn't return your grocery cart? Straight to jail.

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[–] thecookingsenpai@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

Thats what you get when you dare to do gardening

[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Pretty messed up. Let this poor guy go. On the bright side, does free healthcare and free room and board?

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

Free healthcare in that the prison doctor or nurse will refuse to diagnose him with anything until he's on his death bed and then give him comfort release so they don't have to take care of him?

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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What could the parole board's justification for denial possibly be? I don't see any risk from this guy, unless there's something more nefarious than 2.2 lbm of pot going on.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

The cruelty is the point, as they say.

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[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

prison employees would be laid off if only criminals are in prison.

song about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4L20t8Dvlg

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Remember these headlines any time someone makes excuses for the lack of action by the Federal Government, even when we give Democrats Congress and the presidency.

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I hope you don’t consider the 50-50 split Senate to be one of the times we “gave Democrats Congress and the presidency”. Do you think they were going to find 10 Republicans and overcome the filibuster for that legislation?

The last time the Democrats had control that gave them a realistic chance of doing something like this, marijuana legalization didn’t even have majority support in the US. Even among Democrats it was pretty divided.

The time before that, Bill Clinton was president and was under fire for admitting he had ever tried marijuana in his life, and had to claim he “didn’t inhale”.

And those were all the times in my life that the Democrats had any sort of majority in Congress and a Dem president.

You make it sound like there have been these chances over and over. But there isn’t even one single time you can look back at and say “right here, you had all the opportunity in the world and we asked you to do it, and you didn’t do it”.

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[–] white_shotgun@aussie.zone 14 points 9 months ago

Another reason not to visit Alabama

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (4 children)
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[–] slamphear@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Hotchkiss — who goes by his middle name, Bud —

Poor dude never even had a chance. 😔

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 9 months ago

2.2 -100lbs is a massive range especially when the weight every part of the plant. That's a difference of growing enough for a month to smoke and supplying the neighborhood. Two massively different goals.

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